Sorry Andy,

I'll have to agree to disagree.
Personally speaking, the use of a table to layout tabular input is as valid as 
using a table to layout tabular output.
Though I have no issue with other semantically correct methods previously 
outlined.
In most scenarios I prefer them.

The conceptual model I use is not from OOP but database manipulation "Sources & 
Sinks".
Where data input and data output are conceptually the positive and negative of 
the same thing.
This does not change solely because of using (X)HTML to describe them.

As far as the original issue is concerned.
I completely concur that a more usable and accessible solution is bite-sizing 
the input, thereby escaping the need for tabular input completely.
Though inevitably the final solution remains in the hands of the developer.


Warm regards

mike 2k:)2
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Budd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 January 2005 09:55
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Can I use a table in a form?



On 12 Jan 2005, at 18:25, Mike Foskett wrote:

> Creating a method of output without an equivalent method of input
> seems more than oversight.

Forms are a means of input. Tables are a means of displaying tabular 
data.

Input and output mechanisms rarely have to be the same. I input data to 
a computer using a keyboard. It's output to screen.

> An input is a data object.
> Data objects stacked neatly by row and file are by definition tabular.

Sorry, but that's utter rot. If you're going to get all OOP on my ass, 
input would be a data object method, whereas the data it's self would 
be a property of the object. Completely different things!

You can come up with as many ways to justify the use of layout tables 
for forms, but it doesn't make it right!

Andy Budd

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