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> From: Terrence Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, 20 June 2005 7:14 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Cc: Terrence Wood
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists
> 
> I would argue that putting "edit delete" in front of every 
> list item is 
> more of a barrier to accessibility than the white space issue.

I think you're referring to the Usability of the site to a proportion of
disabled users, rather than the ability to access the page. But I see your
point.

> The complexity of your interface increases by an order of 
> magnitude: In 
> a list of 25 items where I want the last item means I have to listen 
> (and choose between) 50 links. 50 items equals 100 links etc.
> 
> How about containing your list in a form, marking up the folders with 
> radio's or checkboxes and choosing an action edit or delete (which 
> should be a post action, but thats another story) at the end?.

Although I understand why you are suggesting it, currently the majority of
users I am addressing would have a better user experience if there were
icons infront of each folder, rather than radio buttons. Radio buttons might
make it more user-friendly for users with screenreaders, but for most users
the icons will be the better option, I think. 

However, I will ensure that the ALT tags clearly identify what the link is
for.

> regards
> Terrence Wood.
> 
> On 19 Jun 2005, at 2:47 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
> 
> > Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
> >>  The reason I cannot simply put both icons into <a>
> >> tags is that they have to be separated by more than just space for
> >> accessibility reasons.
> >
> > I would argue, though, that this checkpoint has purely technical 
> > reasons, and that the situation in which adjacent links can cause 
> > problems (as far as I remember, Netscape 4 in combination with 
> > Outspoken on Mac OS 9) is fairly uncommon nowadays, making 
> it obsolete 
> > (as per the "until user agents" clause).
> >
> > Sure, it won't pass automated dumb testing, but I doubt 
> that the vast 
> > majority of real users (even those with disabilities) will have any 
> > access problems if there is only a single space (or even nothing at 
> > all) between those links.
> >
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