Terrence said:

> We're not talking about a specific look (like techno, goth,
post-postmodern, 
> deconstructed), rather a design pattern: a head/3 column/foot table
layout 
> with multicolored columns

Yes, I think I get that, I just disagree with the implication that table
based designs are such in a way that CSS designs are not, but moving
on... 

> Visual design, usually supports content.

Absolutely, it should, always. 

> That's a bit insulting isn't it, you really have no idea about 
> the quality of design of this list's members? 

Maybe but that was not my intention nor my point. The basis is 
the links posted for review, signatures etc (on this list 
and others) - it wasn't an arbitrary comment. Nor is it an 
insult, this isn't a design list but a standards list and a truly 
outstanding one. Finally, if you think that's harsh you should 
hear me review my work. The first requirement of being a designer 
is a thick skin. 
 
> 'Design' that begins and ends in the visual plane is really just 
> playing with colors and shapes.

Who's advocating this view of design? Not I (see my comment to
Christian).  

> Yeah, so do google and amazon, both of which are pretty "laughable" in

> terms of visual design. And oh, pre-1998 ;-)

:) I wouldn't say they're weak in design, on the contrary their
effectiveness is thanks in large part to their design. But I see your
point, throw in the default gray background and turn on the table
borders and we'll be partying like it's nearly 1999.

Regards, 

-Nigel
 

  
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