I think the thread here would be summed up as:

Most everyone would agree pdf is a usefull file format with special qualities and good.
There is nothing wrong with the pdf format.
PDF isn't a web format and causes some people problems in both usability and irritation.

Having a link that says "Read this" or read more etc, and surprise surprise, a new browser window opens up and some people get locked up while waiting for this unexpected event to take place...is a no no

Would about sum it up. Myself, I would say:
Clearly indicate the format and maybe suggest downloading, especially if very large,
State size of file.
If smaller file offer it in html format, especially when part of the site...
Otherwise, it isn't a bad thing, just when not clear what exactly it is, and size.

My 2 cents anyways..

Bruce P
bkdesign


----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Ohlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <wsg@webstandardsgroup.org>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser!


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Saying that PDF's are needed by Government Websites is a very circular
argument for allowing them - why are they needed? In my experience it is
only ever because of laziness or poorly designed workflows, and as you
point out, we all hate them, especially when they cannot be opened/read.

Mike

I have worked for an organization that uses PDF's in their loan application process. They have to send some of the filled out forms into the Small Bu and therefore they have to follow a specific format for the forms. It would be confusing and time consuming to create multiple versions of the form--since if anything ever went to court they would need a copy of the exact form a user filled out--not one where the information had been transfered over to a new form.

If anyone is interested in reading, here is an Adobe article on PDF accessibility.

http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/accessibility/reader/sec1.html


Matthew


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