Lachlan wrote:
> the question that still remains is that if allowing the
> alt attribute to be omitted when users don't provide any
> good text isn't the right solution, then what is?  What
> should the spec recommend to use in these cases?
It is not the role of the spec to explain how, if you don't do things well, how 
you can do them badly. The role of the spec is to state what is the correct 
behavior - that is all.

Lachlan wrote:
> What should an authoring tool (like Dreamweaver) insert
> by default when a user adds an image and immediately
> dismisses the alt text prompt?
As a WYSIWYG editor vendor, I can tell you what we do. We prompt the user to 
identify if the image is Decorative or not. So the user makes the decision. If 
the user says the image is not decorative, they MUST submit an alt text before 
the image can be saved. Here are the details of what we do:
http://xstandard.com/en/documentation/xstandard-dev-guide/accessibility/#markup-images

Lachlan wrote:
> What should wikipedia use by default for images used in articles?
> What should sites like Flickr, Photobucket, Facebook, MySpace,
> etc. generate and insert?
> What should forums (e.g. phpBB) or blogs (e.g. Blogger) use?
> What should an email application insert when a user emails an
> image to a friend?
They should do what XStandard does, as explained above.

Regards,
-Vlad
http://xstandard.com




-------- Original Message --------
From: Lachlan Hunt
Date: 2007-08-30 10:52 AM
> Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote:
>> Brad wrote:
>>> Omitting the alt attribute as a requirement may have a level of 
>>> appropriateness for sites like flickr
>>
>> Creating content on the Web that is only accessible by one group of
>> people is never appropriate.
> 
> That's technically true and even though sites like Flickr certainly 
> should allow users to provide alternate text for their images, the 
> question that still remains is that if allowing the alt attribute to be 
> omitted when users don't provide any good text isn't the right solution, 
> then what is?  What should the spec recommend to use in these cases?
> 
> Whatever the solution(s), there are various different scenarios that 
> should be addressed.  (Note that in all of these scenarios, the 
> authoring tools should allow the author to specify alt text. This is 
> just about what to do when the author doesn't.)
> 
> What should an authoring tool (like Dreamweaver) insert by default when 
> a user adds an image and immediately dismisses the alt text prompt?  (It 
> currently omits the attribute unless the user explicitly selects 
> "<empty>" or types in some text.)
> 
> What should wikipedia use by default for images used in articles?  (It 
> currently redundantly repeats the image caption in both the alt and 
> title attributes)
> 
> What should sites like Flickr, Photobucket, Facebook, MySpace, etc. 
> generate and insert?
> 
> What should forums (e.g. phpBB) or blogs (e.g. Blogger) use?
> 
> What should an email application insert when a user emails an image to a 
> friend?
> 




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