Thanks Steven. Combined with Patrick's reply, and based on your experience and deep involvement with accessibility, this is indeed excellent, practical advice.
Kind regards, Frank -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Faulkner Sent: Wednesday, 24 October, 2007 12:17 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers Hi Frank, I would suggest that if you want the information available to screen reader users or keyboard only users (as title attribute content is not available to keyboard users), then don't place it in the title attribute on links. On 24/10/2007, Frank Palinkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Steve, > > If I may follow on to Rebecca's query and based your reply, is it then > considered good practice (in general) _not_ to add title attributes and > values to hyperlinks? > > Kind regards, > > Frank > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Steven Faulkner > Sent: Wednesday, 24 October, 2007 11:20 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Title attribute and screen readers > > Hi Rebecca, > announcing of title attribute values on links is not a default screen > reader behaviour and for JAWS the announcing of the title attribute is > an OR choice (read title or link content) so effectively the title > attribute conentt for links is unavailable to most screen reader > users. > > On 24/10/2007, Rebecca Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm looking for up to date info on title attribute behaviour & screen > > readers, especially where used on site global navigation. > > > > As an example, http://www.e.govt.nz uses fairly long title attributes > > for the main navigation links, and this repeats throughout the site > > (i.e., not just on the home page). > > > > For example, "About e-govt" in the left nav has: > > > > <a href="http://www.e.govt.nz/about-egovt";> > > <span title="E-government enables people to use digital > > technology to find and use New Zealand government information and > > services.">About e-govt</span> > > </a> > > > > Main thing I'm wondering is, with a screen reader, if reading out of > > title attribute text is > > enabled, are you forced to listen to the full title text each time it > > is encountered, or can you skip over it? > > > > In the above example, the title attribute is applied to a span nested > > inside the link, rather than to the link itself - would this make any > > difference? > > > > (Comparing this to phone customer support or online banking services - > > some force you to listen to the full spiel about each option before > > you can do anything, others don't - they allow you to activate your > > menu choice without listening to the full explanatory message.) > > > > Or are most screen reader users not using title attribute text - some > > time ago there was an article published suggesting most had it > > disabled... > > > > Would appreciate any information anyone might have on how this works! > > > > Cheers, > > Rebecca > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > > -- > with regards > > Steve Faulkner > Technical Director - TPG Europe > Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium > > www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org > Web Accessibility Toolbar - > http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ******************************************************************* > > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ******************************************************************* > > -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
