If the PDF is behind a secure form, how do you stop the user saving the PDF, 
then emailing to everybody?   -> if the information is in a PDF, then you must 
consider that information to be insecure.  That also applies to all web pages 
-> they can be saved locally, etc.

Mathew Robertson


> Sandy @ Mega Star Media INC <sa...@megastarmedia.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree with download if that is an option..meaning that the PDF is not 
> an
> online secure form...
> Good point.
> sandy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Mathew Robertson
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:49 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] PDFs and other non-html files opening in a new 
> browser
> window
> 
> > My Web team and I are discussing whether or not we should open links 
> to
> PDFs
> > and other non-html pages in a new window. Someone cited Jakob 
> Nielsen's
> > argument at http://www.useit.com/alertbox/open_new_windows.html as the
> > reason we should open in a new window. (We all work on government Web
> sites
> > and they are about to release a new set of linking standards.)
> > 
> > I know this is an old school type question, but we are very divided 
> about
> > this. The people on our usability team are with Nielsen, but others 
> (like
> > me) are not so sure. Isn't accessibility to new windows a problem as 
> it
> > changes the focus? What do you think?
> 
> I'll go out on a limb and say 'niether' -> allow the user to save the
> document locally, becuase:
> - opening a non-web document in a browser, causes the browser to freeze
> while the application gets loaded; on a slow machine, this can be 
> upwards of
> a minute or two.
> - you cant switch tabs to continue working, while the application loads
> - often browser plugins dont support a "save to desktop" option
> - some plugins are notoriously buggy, so as website designer you 
> shouldn't
> encourage the browser to crash (an thus destroying the history of every
> other tab in the process - firefox/opera not withstanding), just to 
> display
> your non-web document, eg: some older versions of Acroread come to mind 
> as
> causing much frustration in this regard.
> - most browser plugins have a cut-down feature set from the full 
> product,
> making them quite unhelpful to use.
> 
> In any case, it is possible to detect if the browser supports a given 
> plugin
> (eg: pdf, doc, etc) -> so it becomes possible to supply the user with 
> the
> most appropriate format.
> 
> For example: the purpose of pdf's is for offline reference or for 
> printing -
> if the browser doesn't support pdf, the server could reasonably assume 
> that
> the user doesn't have native pdf support.  Then a suitable message could 
> be
> displayed accordingly.  Alternatively the server could convert the pdf 
> to
> html and thus be able to at least render it (probably quite awfully) 
> within
> the browser.
> 
> regards,
> Mathew Robertson
> 
> 
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