Hey all,
Am I the only one who is getting these messages directly sent to their deleted 
items? Please can you take the "out of office" bit out of the subject lines? I 
am sure there are others like me who have filters set up to automatically 
delete out of office messages. 

It's also a bit ironic that a subject about headings was started with the 
subject line "Re: [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest" lol!

My own view is that a logo should not be wrapped in an H1 tag under normal 
circumstances. A logo is an image not a descriptive heading.

If you want to have more than H1 tag then as others have said, there is nothing 
in the spec against it so go for it. If you are sure that Google will penalise 
you for it however, then just avoid it. Use an H2 tag for the second heading, 
even if you style it the same.
Stephen

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Yuval Ararat 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 1:10 PM
  Subject: Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)


  I am not sure that a page with multiple important subject does not exist. so 
IA wise and semantic wise this is not a must. google wise it is.


  On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Jason Grant <ja...@flexewebs.com> wrote:

    Tim, 

    Well done for reading the spec - it's always a must. 


    However, Google came after the HTML4.01 spec and what Google wants we give 
it - so the 'only one H1 per page' guideline comes from SEO best practices as 
well as general semantics and IA best practices. 


    So the spec does not tell you to use one H1 per page, but the spec is not 
the be all and end all of guidelines.


    Thanks,

    Jason 



    On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Tim White <tjameswh...@gmail.com> wrote:

      On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Marilyn Langfeld 
<m...@langfeldesigns.com> wrote:

        ...

        H1 is reserved for the title of the page. In a document, at least, 
there's only one title, while there may be many first level headings.
        ...

        So H1 is, IMHO, not the first level header, but the T1, or main title 
of the page. A logo is never, IMHO again, the title of the page.



      Let's look at what the specification says; 


      "A heading element briefly describes the topic of the section it 
introduces. Heading information may be used by user agents, for example, to 
construct a table of contents for a document automatically.
      There are six levels of headings in HTML with H1 as the most important 
and H6 as the least. Visual browsers usually render more important headings in 
larger fonts than less important ones."

      http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.5

      Nowhere does it say that H1s are for page titles or that there can be 
only 1 per page. In fact, the example shows two being used.

      ~ Tim


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