On 5 Sep 2010, at 23:53, tee wrote:
Sometimes next week I maybe able to setup a test site with pages
that show different doctypes and widths.
Just a quick question, shouldn't Opera Mini obeys the rules even
when a desktop doctype is used?
@media screen and (max-device-width: 480px)
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width" />
<meta content="width=device-width; initial-scale=1.0; maximum-
scale=1.0; user-scalable=0;" name="viewport" />
Opera Mini doesn't support the viewport Meta element (yet). Opera
Mobile does though. It is something Apple invented and isn't
standardised (yet). We reverse engineered it for Opera Mobile, but
there is some cases where it doesn't work exactly the same due to
assumptions and the two step zoom. We are fixing those issues though
and trying to standardise Viewport so it is consistent across browsers
without having to make assumptions die to lack of a spec. We are
looking to standardise it in CSS though, where it belongs (some people
on the WG consider it to be like the font tag when used in HTML rather
than CSS). For the initial proposal, look at http://people.opera.com/rune/TR/css-viewport/
. I expect we’ll support some form of viewport (be it element or CSS
properties) in Opera Mini eventually. I can't say how soon (yet).
Without them, I would take what I saw isn't a bug. I am pretty sure
it's more a HTML5 doctype issue than desktop doctype because when
this site was created,
There shouldn't be a difference between a regular desktop doctype and
the HTML5 one. It was designed so that it just works in current
browsers, rather than browsers doing something special when they
detect it.
I adapted a base template that uses XHTML 1.0 strict, in the first
round mobile browser check I didn't change it to XHTML Basic 1.1,
and I didn't see the horizontal scrolling bar (will remember to add
it to my test). Since that this browser is intended for mobile
devices, your reasoning is sound, but I guess developers won't be
accepting it if we specifically tell the browser to follow the above
rules.
Make me think maybe I should wait till 2022 to start using HTML5!
tee
Will the media='all' affects how Opera Mini renders Desktop Doctype
that it ignores the @media screen and (max-device-width: 480px)
rule? Some sort of specificity that media='all' overrules other
media types including media queries?
No, it shouldn’t.
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