Hi Paul and all,

I am using the windows Meinberg porting of NTP
In ntp.org there is a sub-site support.ntp.org that give a lot of 
informations
My discussion is over very poor quality of some chip sets  used.
The HP Pavilon g series is less than poor for the clock.
The protocol used is continuous correct the time, and looking in NTP 
logs it is in the 100mS range, too large for a actual technology.
But a good chip can be expensive, so normally is used the cheapest
See this link http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/DS3231.pdf or 
other clock generators
Using the same program in a couple of old computer the logs show a 20x 
50x better values

The initial discussion was about how many DT over 1 second I found in 
"CQ" decoded.
There is a lot of JT65 users OOT (Out Of Time)

Best 73 de Sandro IW3RAB


Il 15/11/2014 12:12, Paul DU2/WA8UGN ha scritto:
> Hi Sandro and all:
>
> Alessandro Gorobey <algiuga@...> writes:
>> Il 14/11/2014 19:06, Claude Frantz ha scritto:
>>> On 11/14/2014 06:39 PM, Alessandro Gorobey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now time problem. The NTP protocol can maintain synchronized the clock
>>>> with a reference, but normally on a good quality laptop have a very
> poor
>>>> quality clock. Looking at the results of NTP I can see drift of 100mS
> in
>>>> 12 hours from shutdown and startup.
>>> I think that NTP is a good solution if a server is running on your
>>> laptop. If an Internet connection is available, you can use some NTP
>>> servers available in this network. If not, you can use a GPS mouse
>>> and/or a receiver for standard time signals.
>>>
>>> Best 88 de Claude
>> Perfect agree Claude
>> I have the server running on my laptop.
>> If I turnoff the computer for 12 or 24 hours, the internal clock is too
>> poor to maintain the time.
>> So an error of 100 mS is normal and will be corrected in short time but
>> will never be perfect.
>> Few and rare machines that I tested for experiment has an internal clock
>> that avoid this initials errors and a lot of drift.
>> The common chip-sets are not capable to maintain a few mS in all
>> condictions.
>>
>> Best 88 de Sandro IW3RAB
> You can synchronize your laptop's internal clock with NTP by creating a
> Time Synchronization Task in the Task Scheduler of your W7/64 laptop.  For
> ease of description and to save space here, please follow this link to
> learn how to do it.
>
> http://www.pretentiousname.com/timesync/index.html
>
> Also, you should change your laptop's Internet Time server to an NTP
> Internet Time Server that is more accurate than time.windows.com and is
> physically closer to your QTH.
>
> Best 73 de Paul DU2/WA8UGN
>
>
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