On 03/03/2015 00:53, Joe Taylor wrote:
> Bill --
Hi Joe,
>
>> The message is indeed a valid standard message but that is not the
>> issue. The issue is that current software will not extract the report
>> from a message that doesn't contain the DE call.
> Maybe we're arguing semantics.  When you say "the report will not be
> collected at the far end" and "current software will not extract the
> report", I assumed you were referring to the decoding process.  I guess
> you're worrying instead about automatically collecting the report sent
> by someone else, so as to log that report correctly?
That's right.
>
>>> The only possible downside of using these messages with a "Type 2"
>>> prefix/suffix is that other "JT-compatible" programs (JT65-HF, etc.) may
>>> not decode the messages correctly.
>> And WSJT-X :(
> I don't see that WSJT-X is similar here, at all.  The other programs may
> decode our Type 2 messages incorrectly.  WSJT-X does not.
Agreed but the received report is only captured (automatically) if the 
message contains the DE call sign i.e. if I decode:

DE TI4/N0URE R-10

WSJT-X does not record that -10 report unless I manually enter it. My 
rejection of my first proposal was based on the high probability that 
stations worked by type 2 compound call sign holder will not log their 
report correctly.

We could change WSJT-X to collect any report from a double clicked 
message or slightly smarter any report from a message that has either 
the DE or DX base or full call in it, but as things stand every copy of 
WSJT-X in the field does not do that. Maybe such a change and a future 
change in the generated messages once we are comfortable that the change 
has high penetration in the user base.
>
>       -- Joe
73
Bill
G4WJS.

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