Hi Joe,

My post is not a complaint, simply a beta report on the software. The 
number of false decodes I'm seeing is much fewer than 1%, and their 
printed content corresponds to your description. I agree that's quite 
acceptable if it also provides additional good decodes. It might, 
however, be a good idea to add a sentence to the user doc about that if 
it isn't already there. I just printed it last night, but haven't 
collated or read it yet.

If you can tell me where to find the .wav, I can send it, but I'm not 
sure if you would want it. I can't even find the file corresponding to 
the left display of decodes. :)

Thanks and 73, Jim K9YC

On Thu,12/15/2016 7:12 AM, Joe Taylor wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> Without specifics and saved .wav files it's impossible to comment in any
> detail on your false decodes.
>
> When developing the two-pass decoder, we analyzed over a thousand .wav
> files in crowded band conditions.  The probability of false decodes was
> higher for second-pass decodes than for first-pass decodes, but was
> still less than 1 percent.  We considered that an acceptable price for
> the big advantage of many good decodes of very weak, otherwise buried
> signals.
>
> False decodes are almost always easy to recognize as such.  Roughly half
> should be random, garbled free text.  The other half will contain things
> that look vaguely like two callsigns [or CQ/QRZ/DE ... plus one
> callsign], and probably a locator.  Usually one or both of the
> "callsigns" will have a nonstandard, bogus-looking prefix.  There will
> *not* be any correlation between the apparent prefix and the locator.
>
>       -- 73, Joe, K1JT
>
> On 12/15/2016 3:04 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> For several weeks, I've been letting WSJT-X rc3 run overnight on 160M
>> while I sleep, and tabulating the decodes the next day. I've been quite
>> pleasantly surprised by the activity -- in less than a month, I've
>> decoded about 450 different stations running JT65 or JT9. More than a
>> dozen are from outside North America, about half of those from western EU.
>>
>> The reason for this post is that I've also seen a half dozen or so
>> decodes that appear to be false. Looking more closely, I see that most
>> are second decodes finding the signal underneath another one that
>> decodes correctly.
>>
>> I haven't done enough analysis to say that ALL second decodes are bogus,
>> but nearly all of the bogus decodes are on second passes. On each of
>> them, I can't find the call on qrz.com, the call often doesn't make
>> sense, and the time of day doesn't support propagation to me (near San
>> Francisco) from the received grid square. BUT -- the grid square usually
>> roughly correlates with the country associated with the call (which is
>> usually a non-standard prefix for that country).
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
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