This had nothing to do with DX. The exchange was the grid DX or not.
The issue is that you cannot work people if they are in contest mode and
you are not.
W0MU
On 7/23/2018 6:22 PM, rjai...@gmail.com wrote:
NA VHF Contest mode should not be used in a DX contest, or at least
one with significant potential for DX.
It was frustrating for me too, mostly because of the inconsistency.
73
Ria, N2RJ
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:15 PM David Fisher <dsfis...@outlook.com> wrote:
Sometimes stations would call “CQ WW xxxx yyyy”. In that case, it was easy to
select contest mode and return the call. But in many other cases, the other
station would give no hint he was in contest mode until his mangled grid square
was received. In those cases I got the pop up that prompted me to turn on
contest mode. I did so, but all of that takes time, coordination and practice
to make work smoothly.
I one case that I ran as an experiment, I called CQ in contest mode, got a
reply, then got a message through JTAlertX asking what I was doing and why my
grid square didn’t make sense. Etc. etc. etc.
Bottom line – I wasn’t in the contest, but I made a mess of a number of other
station’s contest mode QSOs, which defeated the intent of contest mode.
Dave / NX6D
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From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w...@w0mu.com>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:37:07 PM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [wsjt-devel] Contest mode CQVHF
First of all I want to thank everyone for this great advancement in the
hobby!
The CQ WW VHF was my first exposure to contest mode and it was a very
frustrating 27 hours.
If I am in contest mode and I call CQ and get an answer from someone who
is not, there is essentially no way to complete a qso unless one side
changes into or out of contest mode. What happened to me is I would
switch and then the other side would switch and we would be opposite.
Frustrating!
The main issue is that we cannot expect those not in the contest to have
to switch into a specific mode to work us. This does not happen in any
other contest. We cannot expect this from casual ops. I am glad they
want to work me. Being able to work them should be painless too!
Why is contest mode needed? If a qso is good in contest mode with less
sequences I suggest that all FT8 exchanges be the same. Is there a
specific reason two have multiple sets of exchanges for in a contest and
not in a contest? I don't think so.
I understand that this was an issue for the June VHF contest too.
If you guys can move my xmit around in fox/hound mode, which worked out
really well, there has to be a solution for this. I believe that the
fox was still able to work people not running hound? We need the same
ability in contest mode.
I believe that this is already being examined but I thought I would give
my feedback. I would be happy to provide more information if desired.
Thanks again for all the hard work in bringing us FT8!
W0MU
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