Also.. as for time servers... what, precicely, is wrong with time.google.com
(other than it being free, and alphabet)?
de AI8W, Chris

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 9:27 PM Topher Petty <ai8...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The solution is simple: For Amateur Radio, dual-boot into Linux and give
> Micro$oft the finger... When you need to do something that you can only do
> in Windows (what, I don't know... other than MMORPGs and the like), boot
> back...
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 8:41 PM Kevin Utzy <krutz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was wondering trying to read this thread.  What I haven't been able to
>> discern is whether or not, if I can turn off the windows time update and
>> use the USB GPS dongle I have been using.  My new Win 10 machine is coming
>> tomorrow and I would like to know a head of time if this is going to be a
>> problem?
>>
>> 73,
>> Kevin
>> KX4KU
>> On 12/04/18 8:59 PM, Dana Myers wrote:
>>
>> On 12/3/2018 7:13 PM, Matt Power wrote:
>>
>> WSJT-X on Windows has generally expected that the machine has
>> third-party NTP software and doesn't use the Windows Time service.
>>
>>
>>
>> This strikes me as perhaps dated with respect to Windows 10.
>>
>> My Win 10 Pro box here (1809, 17763.134) runs the default Windows Time
>> Service,
>> always has - configured to 'set time automatically'. Every now and again
>> I'll look at
>> time.is and it'll say I'm within 15mS. I just powered-up a Windows 10
>> Home notebook
>> that has been powered-down a while; it was off 2 minutes, but I did a
>> manual
>> 'Internet Time Sync' and it seems to tracking well (I suspect it might
>> have been
>> skewing back on-time and I kicked the process along).
>>
>> [I did select time.nist.gov as my time server on one system, but
>> time.windows.com
>> seems functionally as good]
>>
>> Note that Windows 10 (version 1607 or later) documentation says:
>>
>> "Time synchronization in Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016 has been
>> substantially improved. Under reasonable operating conditions, systems can
>> be configured to maintain 1ms (millisecond) accuracy or better (with
>> respect to UTC)."
>>
>> but the *default* configuration isn't intended to provide that level of
>> accuracy:
>>
>> "While we support accuracy up to 1ms on Windows 10 or Windows Server
>> 2016, the majority of customers do not require highly accurate time."
>>
>> But they explain how to configure your Win 10 system for high accuracy:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/networking/windows-time-service/configuring-systems-for-high-accuracy?tabs=MinPollInterval
>>
>> I'm going to give the 'high-accuracy' changes a try; I might change time
>> server
>> to time.windows.com to avoid hitting NIST too often.
>>
>> Odds are that you're better-off using the built-in Windows Time Service
>> than
>> a third-party service on Windows 10 version 1607 or later. Fewer moving
>> parts
>> is always better.
>>
>> 73,
>> Dana  K6JQ
>>
>>
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