Auto Seq works great for inter-operability between contest and non-contest message sequences. The problem is if the non-contest operator doesn’t like the fact that the normal expected sequence is shorter, because he didn’t receive an SNR report from his contest QSO partner. My guess is that few non-contesters will be OK with not receiving a SNR. Otherwise, they’d be in contest mode.
A couple of things could then happen. One is that the non-contester abandons Auto Seq and manually re-sends his SNR, hoping to prod his QSO partner into sending a SNR. If that never happens, the non-contester will probably give up and not log the QSO. And, time is wasted for both stations with no QSO for either. Or, the non-contester may not do anything but decline to log the QSO. That may be OK if he doesn’t submit a log to the contest organization; the contester will avoid a NIL. I think it is safe to assume that any station running the standard (non-contest) message sequence probably won’t accept the absence of a SNR report from his QSO partner. It’s probably also safe to assume that not many non-contesters will be in the recommended contest sub-band attempting to use their standard message sequence. If they “get” that there is a contest activity, they’ll probably also “get” that the contest messaging should be used. If they watch the conversations for a minute or two, it will be obvious that no one is sending SNR. We can speculate some more on all this, but maybe getting some actual contest experience with it will better inform the discussion. Ed W0YK From: John Kludt <[email protected]> Sent: 22 July, 2019 17:45 To: [email protected]; WSJT software development <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Contest confusion Jim, Actually, no. Autosequence works perfectly with either mode. One thing that really helped this weekend was people in CQWW VHF would use CQ Test callsign. (Fair game) Others would call CQ Dx, CQ SA, CQ EU, etc. (Left them alone). Others would just call CQ and I went after those, too. Usually not much of a problem. Once we had exchanged call-signs and grids I had a valid contest Q. The vast majority didn't seem to mind they didn't get a signal report. Autosequence really does not care. So, has this turned into another tempest in a teapot.? John On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 8:36 PM Jim Brown <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: On 7/22/2019 4:32 PM, Laurie, VK3AMA wrote: > On 23/07/2019 9:14 am, Jim Brown wrote: >> Configurations, as suggested by Laurie, is too many mouse clicks, >> you're more likely to lose a sequence. > > Seriously? 2 mouse clicks is too many. > One to click the configuration menu title, then move you mouse down to > your pre-configured Contest/Non-Contest configuration title then click, > that's the second click. Yes, seriously. You've got 2 sec to see what's happening before transmission starts, and see that it's wrong. So you have to stop auto-transmission, change the config, then regenerate the "right" messages, then hit transmit. Try that several times in the middle of a contest. 73, Jim K9YC _______________________________________________ wsjt-devel mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
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