that certainly does. a contest is in cw easier than ragchewining, esp at
high speed as most of the things to exchange are 'known values'.


On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:18 PM Larry B. via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> However, 59 or 599 serves the human brain as a very good synchronizing
> sound, so that we can easily copy the "real" exchange that come after it.
> At least it does for me, especially on CW.
>
> 73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Muns
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 16:32
> To: 'John Kludt'
> Cc: 'WSJT-Dev'
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Contest confusion
>
> Hi John.
>
> Excellent question!  In most instances today RST is meaningless, whether
> contesting, DXing or everyday operating.  However, there are still some of
> us old-timers who learned ham radio with true RST reports.  We were
> educated
> about the meaning of each number and tried to apply the appropriate RST to
> each report which was a key part of the first transmission in each QSO.
>
> Over the ensuing decades RST has evolved to a perfunctory '599' in most
> QSOs.  Sometimes we're too embarrassed to send '599' when we're struggling
> to finish a weak DX QSO and we will sent '559' or '229' or whatever.
> Mostly, it is a mindless '599'.  Now, with WSJT-X we have true, accurate
> SNR
> and it's still mindless, in the sense that we don't have to think about
> it.
> The software determines the correct SNR.
>
> Thus, ham radio has a free opportunity to return to its roots when RST was
> meaningful and exchange meaningful SNR reports.  Readability and Tone
> don't
> have much value in the WSJT-X modes, but signal strength adds interest and
> some substance to each QSO.  I'm a strong advocate of supporting SNR in
> WSJT-X QSOs.
>
> Ed W0YK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kludt <johnnykl...@gmail.com>
> Sent: 22 July, 2019 03:34
> To: e...@w0yk.com
> Cc: WSJT-Dev <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Contest confusion
>
> Ed,
>
> I have only one question - what is so sacred about a signal report?  Most
> are bogus, anyway.  Our old section manager used to laugh about "You are
> 59
> or 599" frequently followed by "again, again."
>
> John
>
> Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone
> On Jul 22, 2019 00:01, Ed Muns <e...@w0yk.com> wrote:
> >
> > Great tip, Laurie.
> >
> > This is a good technique if one can reasonably assume that the majority
> of
> > QSO partners sending a signal report will not complete the QSO, or log
> it,
> > if the contester only sends a Grid Square.
> >
> > IOW, if a contester set to NA VHF Contest mode connects up with a
> > "non-contester" set to normal mode (Special Activity unchecked), and both
> > are configured for Auto Seq, then the QSO will complete without any
> > operator
> > intervention.  However, the contester will not have sent a signal report
> > to
> > the non-contester.  That may be an issue, because the non-contester may
> > continue to send his SNR message, hoping to elicit an SNR in return.
> Or,
> > he
> > may not log the contact because he never received an SNR from the
> > contester.
> > This may not be a problem for the contester, because the non-contester is
> > unlikely to submit a Cabrillo log, so the contester will avoid a NIL.
> >
> > Back to your tip of setting up two instances of WSJT-X, one with NA VHF
> > Contest mode enabled and one with Special Activity unchecked.  This is a
> > good technique for the contester to get another QSO in the log that
> > otherwise would not happen, IF the assumption is the majority of "mixed"
> > QSOs as described above will not complete successfully because the
> > non-contester is concerned that he didn't receive a signal report.
> >
> > The contester has to decide whether to power through the QSO in the NA
> VHF
> > Contest mode, or to on-the-fly switch to his "SNR Configuration" that
> uses
> > the standard non-contest message sequence and indeed sends an SNR
> message
> > to
> > the non-contester.
> >
> > Ed W0YK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Laurie, VK3AMA <_vk3a...@vkdxer.net>
> > Sent: 21 July, 2019 16:04
> > To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Contest confusion
> >
> > On 22/07/2019 7:16 am, Jim Brown wrote:
> > > so I quickly switched out of contest mode to work him. :)
> > >
> > > What I WOULD like is to able to do this without going to Settings
> > > Advanced. All those clicks loses a TX cycle.
> > >
> > > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
> > Simple and only requires a single mouse click. Setup two configurations
> > in WSJT-X, one for you desired contest and the other non-contest. Once
> > setup, it is a single click using the "Configuration" menu to switch
> > between contest and non-contest.
> >
> > de Laurie VK3AMA
> >
> >
> >
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