Hi Joe
Thanks for your reply about using configurations. You asked whether this approach could solve my problem as well as any other scheme could do? These is no simple answer to your question so I will go through the process I went through as a response to your request for feedback on RC4 and in case this is a help for others. Firstly, I do accept your general policy for not remembering user settings by mode, band or whatever. If nothing else this will be confusing to people who operate lots of bands or modes and I suspect complicates your programming. I also accept that if the VHF people want the program to reset to the last used audio frequency they get priority because there are more of them. This will become even more of an issue if Q65 takes off at HF. The main problem for us as weak signal upper microwave users is that we have been used to running with the TX audio always set to 1000 Hz since the days of JT4, more recently QRA64 and the early versions of Q65. Because we have the added problem of trying to fit wide tone spaced sub-modes into limited passbands this standard worked well and the T, M, R, 73 system was designed to work on the basis of tuning to 1000 Hz. It now appears that with high spreading of 200 Hz or more the Q65-60E sub-mode has an advantage but to use this on some transceivers you need to set the audio to 700 Hz. This was addressed in RC3 but does not meet your general policy. Following your advice I set up a number of configurations. However I ran into a problem in that each time I changed configurations WSJT-X reset the band setting (Just below LOG QSO) and RF frequency (next to this) back to the band on my IF radio and thus the Doppler correction was not correct. I consulted with Charlie G3WDG and he did not have this problem. After some extensive investigation I found Charlie and I had different settings in that I did not have "Monitor returns to last used frequency" checked in the general settings but Charlie did. However even when I did check this I still had the problem. While it would be obvious to you it took me a while to realise that the unchecked setting was still active on all the configurations I had set. So I had to go through each configuration and check this setting to get it to work correctly. Since doing this I found that for those of us who are used to the old method we used on JT4 and QRA64 there is a high risk that we will accidently use the spinners and change a configuration which is very confusing once you try to use it again. The best solution I have come up with is that in addition to setting up standard configurations that you generally use, you should set up a configuration which I have called "Random". But you then have to discipline yourself to never changing settings on your standard configurations and if you do need to you must resort to the "Random" configuration. So the short answer is that Configurations can be made to work if you: 1. Prior to setting them up you make sure "Monitor returns to last used frequency" is checked. 2. Remember to never change your standard configurations with the spinner controls 3. Add a separate configuration called something like "Random" and use that whenever you wish to use a non-standard operation with spinner controls. Having got to this point I have been running this method past a few 10 GHz operators. One liked the configuration method and two did not. Those that did not pointed to the fact that if you have to remember to never change the spinner controls you might as well just remember to always set the audio frequency each time you change modes or frequencies. One commented that using the spinner controls allows a quick change to say a wider sub-mode where-as there is a delay if you change configurations. >From what is seen on the HB9Q logger is seems that most Upper microwave users have adopted the approach of indicating the TX audio frequency they are using and for others to set to this with the spinners. Still for DXpeditions and terrestrial use it would be good to adopt the old 1000 Hz standard. I think at this stage the use of configurations is unlikely to become the norm but I will keep using it see how it works out. For info the configurations I have set up are as below: 73 Rex Configurations.png -----Original Message----- From: Joe Taylor [mailto:j...@princeton.edu] Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2021 11:56 AM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TX audio setting on RC4 Hi Rex, The general policy in WSJT-X is that we don't try to "remember" user settings by mode, band, or whatever. If you want parameters in reset to previously selected values according to band or mode, you should define a Configuration for each frequently used combination, and give it a convenient name. You can have a dozen or more configurations, each one set up the way you want. Don't just switch to Echo mode, switch to your Echo configuration. If you use both Q65-60D and Q65-60E frequently, don't just use the ABCDE spinner -- define a configuration for submode. Doesn't this approach solve your problem as well as any other scheme could do? -- 73, Joe, K1JT
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