Ah, I see where your confusion is coming from. The average user does not know that www.vanity-domain.com/bob is a different URL from vanity-domain.com/bob (or alternatively, that www.vanity-domain.com is a different location than vanity-domain.com). We can thank all the major browsers for that.
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Breno de Medeiros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The 'naked domain' version of the site may not be DNS-resolvable, > while the www. prepended version of the domain may be. In addition, > the fact that a resource URL does not exist (in the sense that it > might return a 404) does not mean that it cannot have meaningful > associated meta-data. > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Mark Nottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 03/12/2008, at 1:35 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Mark Nottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 02/12/2008, at 1:25 PM, Dirk Balfanz wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well, here is the scenario: I buy foobar.com for $3/year at >>>>> cheapdomains.com. I pay an extra dollar to have "email", which means I >>>>> tell >>>>> them where I want my email forwarded. I pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be >>>>> forwarded >>>>> to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I pay another extra dollar per year for "web >>>>> hosting", >>>>> which means I get a web interface on cheapdomains.com to create some web >>>>> pages, which get served on www.foobar.com. I set up a couple of pages >>>>> there >>>>> with pictures of my cats or whatever and I am done. >>>>> >>>>> I now also want to use my email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my OpenID >>>>> identifier [1] because I heard that that will end my having to create >>>>> ever-more accounts on the web. I am told that in order to get that to >>>>> work I >>>>> need to host a page called "site-meta" on my site with some >>>>> weird-looking >>>>> text in it that I don't understand. But, hey, I know how to get that >>>>> served >>>>> off www.foobar.com so that's cool. >>>>> >>>>> I have never heard of DNS. >>>>> >>>>> Is that a use case we want to support? >>>>> >>>>> Dirk. >>>>> >>>>> [1] Let's assume that OpenID 3.0 and XRD 2.0 allow that and define some >>>>> way to discover OpenID endpoints from email addresses. >>>> >>>> /site-meta on http://foobar.com/ doesn't (and can't, on its own) make any >>>> authoritative assertions about mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; even though the >>>> authority is the same, the URI scheme is different. >>> >>> The email address is a distraction here. The core issue is independent of >>> that. >>> >>> vanity-example.com (hosted only at www.vanity-example.com) is a small >>> site and wants to enable all their user URLs >>> www.vanity-example.com/bob, www.vanity-example.com/alice to be useful >>> as discovery endpoints for user services. Thankfully some other site, >>> more professionally managed, is willing to provide discovery services, >>> aggregation, etc., on behalf of the users of these vanity domains. >> >> You just lost me. Why is it important to have site metadata for a site that >> doesn't exist, if the e-mail issue is a distraction? >> >> -- >> Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ >> >> > > > > -- > --Breno > > +1 (650) 214-1007 desk > +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) > MTV-41-3 : 383-A > PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7) > -- --Breno +1 (650) 214-1007 desk +1 (408) 212-0135 (Grand Central) MTV-41-3 : 383-A PST (GMT-8) / PDT(GMT-7)