Hi Ron,
It's true there is a lot of material out there (PerlMonks,
cpan/metacpan, github and sourceforge and probaly a lot more).
It would be nice to have a single, central resource for learning, but
there also needs to be news and updates (wxperl.it as it is more or
less) and live support, for which we currently use Google groups.
I worry about resilience. We have had our fair share of problems: the
wiki has been hacked a few times, passwords and administrators have gone
missing and we've had to retrieve and retype stuff.
I like some redundancy, so I'm not unhappy with the current diversity of
sources. Clearly it would be nice if there was better navigation across
the sources, and maybe we could do something about that.
It would be good to hear from Herbert about his plans.
Regards,
Steve.
On 04/01/16 08:24, Ron Grunwald wrote:
Re: Future of wxperl.it Hello all,
It seems very clear that there is already a lot of information,
particularly code examples, about WxPerl. The wxperl wiki indeed
contains many documents, but in my view seems a little disjointed and
incomplete. This is why I’m leaning towards the “Learning WxPerl” book
idea, because there is a natural order and progression in a book layout.
The initial effort by Herbert Breunung that I mentioned in my previous
email is found at:
https://bitbucket.org/lichtkind/wxperlbook
Under Source -> chapter, there’s a file “TOC.txt” which seems complete
and would be an excellent starting point. Although we would probably
need permission from Herr Breunung.
To answer James’ question,
> So again, what needs to be done long term...
>
Personally, I would like to see “wxperl.it” converted to the
authoritative “Learning WxPerl” online resource that follows the
layout of a book.
Kind Regards.
________________________________________
Ron Grunwald
ron...@yahoo.com.au
http://www.dvlcorner.org
On 4/01/16 7:17 AM, "Steve Cookson - gmail" <steveco.1...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Guys,
There is a lot of stuff on the wiki. (See here
http://wiki.wxperl.nl/Main_Page).
How to structure a good wxPerl GUI? (Possibly an existing GUI
design text)
- Do you mean a development guide? I don't know of a
good one. Herbert started to write one but I don't know how far
he got.
Installing wxPerl and wxWidgets
- There is a good page on the Wiki.
A tutorial on the wxPerl widgets and Sizers.
- Sizers and their variety have always seemed
problematic to me, especially all the flags they come with. In top
of that we have parents which, if they conflict with your parent
sizer's panel send everything wrong!
Extending your wxPerl GUI to a complete application.
- I think we all create own architectures and that is
probably a large duplication of effort.
Advanced topics in wxPerl(Wrapping external libraries)
- there is a partial write up of this on the wiki, called
NewClass.pod.
Reference to wxPerl wxVARIOUS_DEFINED_TERMS available for use
- Have you tried perl Makefile.PL --help. It doesn't
give you a great deal, but here it is:
~/wxPerl$ perl Makefile.PL --help
Usage: perl Makefile.PL [options]
--enable/disable-foo where foo is one of: dnd filesys grid help
html mdi print xrc stc docview calendar
datetime
--help you are reading it
--mksymlinks create a symlink tree
--extra-libs=libs specify extra linking flags
--extra-cflags=flags specify extra compilation flags
--[no-]wx-debug [Non-] debugging wxWidgets
--[no-]wx-unicode [Non-] Unicode wxWidgets
--[no-]wx-mslu [Non-] MSLU wxWidgets (Windows only)
--wx-version=2.6[.1]
--wx-toolkit=msw|gtk|gtk2|motif|mac|wce|...
There doesn't seem to be the same for Alien, although there is a
page for wxWidgets, here:
https://wiki.wxwidgets.org/WxWidgets_Build_Configurations
What would you like to see see to make wxPerl be fit for another
decade?
Regards
Steve.
On 03/01/16 20:19, James Lynes wrote:
Ron:
I agree. My journey would have been shorter and more
enjoyable with a good "Learning wxPerl" text. I think that the
wxDemo is a good tool, but I found that, for a beginner, the
glue code used to tie all the widgets into a neat package
tended to obscure what was going on, which is why I broke out
many of the widgets into separate example programs available
on the wiki.(If I rewrote the examples today there are
certainly things that could be cleaned up...learning curve).
The wxBook is good, but it took me quite a while to translate
the C++ syntax into wxPerl. Today I can use the wxBook or the
wxWidgets docs and translate pretty quickly, but it took way
too long to get there. What I've still found missing is
information on extending the GUI into a complete application.
I do have a small working application using wxPerl with Perl
Threads, but I'm sure there are other ways to structure the
non-GUI portions of larger applications.
So, I guess the problem has at least six levels:
c
Nice to see a little discussion started.
So again, what needs to be done long term...
James
On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ron Grunwald
<ron...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Good morning all,
I use WxPerl and intend to keep using it for a long time
to come. However, I am only a beginner with WxPerl. Most
of my GUI programming experience comes from PerlTk.
One of the things I’ve always missed about WxPerl is a
good introductory book. PerlTk has the O’reilly “Learning
Perl/Tk” book by Nancy Walsh, which I find invaluable.
Imagine if an equivalent “Learning WxPerl” book existed.
I believe the German programmer, Herbert Breunung,
contemplated writing such a book, but I don’t know what
the current state is. My personal view is that WxPerl
still has a lot to offer but needs to be more appealing to
introductory GUI programmers.
Kind Regards.
________________________________________
Ron Grunwald
ron...@yahoo.com.au <http://ron...@yahoo.com.au>
http://www.dvlcorner.org
On 2/01/16 1:36 AM, "James Lynes" <jmlyne...@gmail.com
<http://jmlyne...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Johan:
I see you got an overwhelming response to your post.
Is anyone still using wxPerl? The only response I got
to my last couple of questions came from Steve.
James
On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Johan Vromans
<jvrom...@squirrel.nl <http://jvrom...@squirrel.nl> >
wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:54:35 -0500
James Lynes <jmlyne...@gmail.com
<http://jmlyne...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> Great, but what needs to be done long term?
I don't know. I'm about to stop caring for
several reasons including age,
health, personal circumstances, and the lack of
support from others.
If anyone wants to continue the wxPerl domains
and the wiki it is now to
time to step forward.
Likewise CitrusPerl and the Cava Packager, two
tools geared towards wxPerl
support but unfortunately abandoned.
-- Johan
http://johan.vromans.org/seasons_greetings.html
