> On Dec 15, 2014, at 08:02, Erik Olson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I looked into fixing the grow-box problem 6 months ago.  I came to the 
> conclusion that I need access to libXplugin.  Since I don't have access to 
> libXplugin I can't fix it.  Only Apple can fix it.
> 
> I will try to find the time to investigate this again.

What specifically do you need out of libXplugin that isn't there?  libXplugin 
is a very small shim layer to give X11 some access to some lower level APIs.

Other WMs manage to resize by dragging edges, so it should be possible for 
quartz-wm to do the same.

> 
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Jeremy Sequoia <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone...
> 
> On Dec 14, 2014, at 13:54, Erik Olson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> > What API are you missing?  Everything you need should be doable in 
>> > quartz-wm
>> 
>> libXplugin
> 
> What about libXplugin?  What API are you missing that you feel is missing?  
> quartz-wm should be able to handle resize in X11 just like other window 
> managers deal with edge resize.
> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jeremy Sequoia <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone...
>> 
>> On Dec 7, 2014, at 12:26, Erik Olson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> > isn’t it time to modernize resize for X11 (possibly via quartz-wm) to be 
>>> > like everything else, and not just the old lower-right-corner-only?
>>> Yeah, patches are certainly welcome from anyone who wants to tackle issues 
>>> like this.
>>> 
>>> I looked into this.  Not sure it is possible for me (or us) to fix this.  
>>> Might require access to Apple-only API parts.
>> 
>> What API are you missing?  Everything you need should be doable in quartz-wm.
>> 
>>> I agree that the window growbox needs to be removed for two reasons.  One 
>>> is so that it matches the look and feel of Lion (and newer OS versions).  
>>> The second reason is more important, the growbox causes X11 graphical 
>>> glitches.  I will post an email to this list that demonstrates this bad 
>>> behavior.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > On Dec 7, 2014, at 05:33, Richard L. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Since all support prior to Lion has been dropped,
>>> 
>>> Really?  That's news to me.
>>> 
>>> > isn’t it time to modernize resize for X11 (possibly via quartz-wm) to be 
>>> > like everything else, and not just the old lower-right-corner-only?
>>> 
>>> Yeah, patches are certainly welcome from anyone who wants to tackle issues 
>>> like this.
>>> 
>>> > While support for OS versions that still did it the old way remained, it 
>>> > was perhaps valid to say that doing it both ways was too many #ifdefs.
>>> 
>>> #ifdef's are compile-time mechanisms.  The same binary runs on multiple OS 
>>> versions, so it would need to be a runtime check if you wanted to support 
>>> multiple styles.  Personally, I'd prefer to see the edge-resize even on 
>>> Snow Leopard because the grab handle can block content.
>>> 
>>> > But that no longer applies, and the inconsistency, inconvenience, and 
>>> > wasted space at the bottom of X11 windows is a bit annoying.
>>> 
>>> Yep.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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