Thanks Tom.

Yes, I forgot that detail: in some cases (not always, I think, though I
can't presently verify how often, this is my gut talking, and this is a
hard error to make happen on purpose) the vanished windows will still show
up in the list.

When that happens (and again, this is imperfect recollection talking),
sometimes selecting one from the list will make it pop back, sometimes it
won't.  It may be that the ones that do re-appear are the same ones that
have only slipped underneath another window inside the present display.

I just finished reading that thread in -dev.  Are you aware of any further
discussion going on elsewhere?

Thanks.


On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Tom Lane <[email protected]> wrote:

> Michael Jinks <[email protected]> writes:
> > The gist is, if I have an xterm that displays a shell running over an ssh
> > connection, and I switch over to a different desktop or let my display go
> > to screen saver mode, that xterm might be gone when I come back.
> > ...
> > Sometimes, it hasn't disappeared completely; instead, it's relocated to a
> > different part of the screen, underneath another xterm.
>
> I have seen some cases where XQuartz manages to relocate a window
> completely off-screen; see thread starting here:
> https://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/xquartz-dev/2016-May/003958.html
> Is it possible that that's what's happening to you, rather than the xterm
> getting killed completely?
>
> For me, that happened with sleep/wake cycles or screen resizes (such as
> attaching or removing an external monitor), but I would not be surprised
> if a workspace swap or screensaver start/stop caused much the same thing.
>
> > I run all my shells under screen sessions at the remote end, and those
> > screen sessions are almost always still listed as live at the server, so
> it
> > can take some trial and error to find out which displays I lost.
>
> That sure sounds like the process is still there somewhere --- have you
> tried to correlate against "ps" output to determine that?
>
> FWIW, I've had some luck with getting such windows back in view by doing
> another sleep/wake cycle.  Also notice that it seemed to be affected by
> how the window's position had been determined to start with.
>
>                         regards, tom lane
>
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