Yes, the Mojave is for 32-bit support.  I still develop and maintain numerous 
educational apps for MacOS in Adobe Director (long since abandoned).

The test account is a good idea.  I suspect that will confirm my own account 
has some bits and pieces of X11 installed that are causing the persistent 
re-launching.

And a VM is going to be the eventual next step when this machine dies.  I have 
no idea how Director will perform that way, but I will definitely be finding 
out.

Thanks for the tips.

Colin




> On Oct 19, 2022, at 10:57 AM, Ryan McKay <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried making a new test account on the computer and see if the 
> problem is account related or universal?
> 
> I assume you’re still running Mojave for 32bit support?
> 
> I made a virtual machine under VMware fusion and keep that 10.14 around just 
> for those times.  So I can run the latest while still maintaining legacy 
> usefulness.
> 
> Think I have my notes around if you need advice on how to set up the virtual 
> machine.
> 
> I checked and I’ve got X11 2.8.1 installed working….gonna skip the 2.8.2 just 
> in case….I don’t wanna tank my system.
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> Ryan
> 
> 
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>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Colin Law <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not on an M1 machine though….this is a 2015 iMac running Mojave.
>> 
>> I do think its a somewhat common issue that I am seeing as having to do with 
>> updating to 2.8x from 2.7 and not doing it properly.  I’m going to try 
>> uninstalling a few more times with some combinations of version installs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Ryan McKay <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry,
>>> Unable to produce the issue.  Maybe a specific M1 apple silicon issue?  I’m 
>>> on an intel processor and/or newer OS? (I.e. I’m on 12.6)
>>> Have you tried bug reporting via the apple beta program?
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Ryan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> Ryan McKay, PhD
>>> NMR Facility Manager
>>> (he/him)
>>> 
>>> University of Alberta
>>> College of Natural and Applied Sciences - Faculty of Science
>>> Department of Chemistry
>>> 
>>> Room E3-17A
>>> East Chemistry Building
>>> Department of Chemistry
>>> 11227 Saskatchewan Drive
>>> Edmonton, AB Canada T6G 2G2
>>> 
>>> Office      780.492.9950
>>> Mobile      780.920.8871
>>> URL         uab.ca/nmr <http://uab.ca/nmr>
>>> Email     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <Screen Shot 2021-09-09 at 4.00.37 PM.png>
>>> The University of Alberta respectfully acknowledges that we are situated on 
>>> Treaty 6 territory, traditional lands of First Nations and Métis people.
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 8:13 AM, Colin Law via X11-users 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have seen numerous posts on this issue on github that all go to a single 
>>>> answer
>>>> 
>>>>     https://github.com/XQuartz/XQuartz/issues/52 
>>>> <https://github.com/XQuartz/XQuartz/issues/52>
>>>> 
>>>> which basically says you have to immediately logout after installing 2.8.x
>>>> 
>>>> I have uninstalled, and then tried this … installing 2.8.2 and immediately 
>>>> logging out.  But there is still some script process left somewhere that 
>>>> seems to relaunch X11 over and over once it is started and then quit.  The 
>>>> only solution for me so far is to do your xQuartz business and then logout 
>>>> and back in and do not relaunch it.
>>>> 
>>>> Colin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 9:44 AM, Tharin Blumenschein (CHE - Staff) 
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Colin,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had a brand new iMac with M1 chip last year, set up by the IT team at 
>>>>> my university, and I had the same problem when I tried and installed 
>>>>> xQuartz 2.8.2 on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That computer now had a different issue and was wiped and reinstalled by 
>>>>> our IT team, and I haven’t yet tried to install xQuartz, but I intend to 
>>>>> do it soon. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have no idea of the answer, but I’d be very interested to know as well!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tharin
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 19 Oct 2022, at 00:44, Colin Law via X11-users 
>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Warning: This email is from outside the UEA system. Do not click on 
>>>>>> links or attachments unless you expect them from the sender and know the 
>>>>>> content is safe.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have X11 (xQuartz) 2.8.2 installed on MacOS Mojave.  Up until recently 
>>>>>> I had no issues, but I have done something or installed another package 
>>>>>> that has caused it to keep restarting over and over.  
>>>>>> Every time I quit X11 it restarts within about 3 seconds.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I did the xQuartz.org 
>>>>>> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fxquartz.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ct.blumenschein%40uea.ac.uk%7C8422a397231e4b837b2b08dab162b77d%7Cc65f8795ba3d43518a070865e5d8f090%7C0%7C0%7C638017334910445121%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=NYCwcuejLH%2FBO2sDOu2RpXjf4BqRvJpXb%2B84WWb3dkA%3D&reserved=0>
>>>>>>  install, and I seem to have X11 related files in /opt/X11 and 
>>>>>> /usr/X11/.  I do NOT have any .xinitrc file in my user directory 
>>>>>> however.  I have made no changes to any X11 setups.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have checked the 
>>>>>>   /usr/X11/lib/X11//xinit/xinitrc 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>   /usr/X11/lib/X11//xinit/xinitrc.d
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and they seem to match completely an install I have on a Big Sur MacOS 
>>>>>> machine where I can launch and quit X11 with no issues.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What might be relaunching X11?  Are there any ideas of where to look to 
>>>>>> see what process is keeping it alive?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Colin Law
>>>>>> 
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