On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Jim Tolbert wrote:

Running back to the desire for DAO packets..... I am assuming that with standard APRS packets having 2 decimal places and DAO having 3 decimal places that I will be locating a particular GPS receiver to an area that is an order of magnitude more precise. I am probably not saying this correctly, but with the standard APRS packet, I have an area of uncertainty of about 20' x 40' ( in northern Wisconsin, US ( N45,W92)). By moving to a DAO packet, I will have an area of uncertainty of about 2' x 4'.

If I have a bunch of GPS receivers of the same type, can I assume that the relative location is pretty good, even if the absolute location may be off a bit? I am really primarily interested in relative positioning.

It almost sounds like you're talking apples and oranges. Accuracy and Precision are not synonyms.

DAO gives you another decimal place of precision, but that means absolutely nothing if the GPS doesn't calculate that digit accurately.

...and as for your actual question re: Absolute or Relative positioning. Several years ago, I had a need to survey a parcel of land. Rather than pay the $15k the surveyor wanted, I though of making a 'poor man's DGPS' by locating one receiver on the section corner post on one boundary of the property, and placing another one on the lawnmower, and recording the log of both on separate laptops. I then thought I could analyse the fixed GPS log, locate the center of the wandering path, and generate a time-stamped 'error vector' file which I could then use to correct the lawn-mower's data log, and generate a set of points which define the contour surface of our property. I proposed this scheme to Tom Clark one day at a Dayton Hamvention, and he politely lauged at me. According to him, the GPS error vector isn't constant even for identical GPS engines located close (<1/2 mile) to each other, and furthermore, the firmware in the inexpensive GPS units I was proposing to use is optimized for accuracy in lat/long, at the expense of altitude, so I would never get even close to usable contour data.


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Rick Green, N8BJX

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