I am very interested helping in any testing and help keeping it alive. --IT
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 11:45 AM Don Avart <dav...@redlineperf.com> wrote: > I couldn’t agree more with Brian’s sentiment about xCAT. We, RedLine, > have been xCAT users, integrators and occasional contributors since the end > of IBM’s CSM. We’ve deployed it on numerous vendor platforms and it just > works. As a small business in the greater HPC marketplace we have many > customers that rely on xCAT and we will need to work with them to identify > an alternative should xCAT discontinue. I’ve reached out to the IBM team > as well as Jarrod from Lenovo and others in the community. I am very > interested in putting together a plan that would continue to provide an > open source option that is platform agnostic. > > With respect to Jarrod’s comments about using Confluent as a starting > point for future development of xCAT, there are a number of > considerations. Here are a few. > > - Is Lenovo committed to keeping Confluent open-source > - Is Lenovo open to integration of features/capabilities of non-Lenovo > vendors > - Governance. Who controls changes to the code base and future > development directions > - Does xCAT remain it’s own project and share code with Confluent or > do they become one project > > > There are definitely other considerations, but I just wanted to get a few > thoughts out there. My opinion is that Jarrod’s idea is one that should be > given significant thought and debate. xCAT2 was, according to everything > I’ve read, a complete rewrite of the original xCAT. Therefore, adopting > Confluent as the next version is not a bridge too far, in my opinion. I > also can’t speak to the original intentions of IBM when xCAT2 was released > with respect to multi-vendor support. I can say that as a member of the > xCAT community I would like to see the project continue as open source and > vendor agnostic. > > I would really like to hear from anyone that is interested in keeping the > project alive. I’m hopeful that we can reach a solution as a community. > > Best Regards, > > > ---- > Don Avart > CTO > RedLine Performance Solutions, LLC > (703) 634-5686 > dav...@redlineperf.com > > On Sep 21, 2023, at 10:59 AM, Jarrod Johnson <jjohns...@lenovo.com> wrote: > > There are at least some options I've heard discussed, if anyone has > feedback: > -Someone to take over the xCAT 2.x codebase as-is, adding some missing > stuff like Ubuntu 20+ support, RHEL9, etc. I don't know that anyone has > volunteered to go all in on all that exactly yet. > > -Try to establish a community around confluent (potentially as 'xCAT 3'). > This may suggest some sort of rebranding and/or governance changes, but > basically starting from confluent instead of xCAT 2 for the xCAT-like > experience. Not precisely xCAT-like but was designed "by one of the > designers of xCAT 2" with a lot of sensibilities preserved. Given that > there's not much in the way of 'backwards compatibility', I'm cautious > about the 'xCAT 3' branding, and while I would be a consistent contributor > across xCAT 2.0 through 2.8 and then confluent, it would technically be a > change from an IBM to Lenovo contributions, which I could see being a > challenge. > > -The current default trajectory is an archived project and people having > to decide for themselves what to do next (only 'all-in-one' options that I > know to be cross-platform are Bright and Confluent, if just OS deployment, > then I commonly see Foreman used for diskful, with Warewulf being an option > for mostly diskless scenario). Obviously, I like Confluent best, but *of > course* I would. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Brian Joiner <martinitime1...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2023 9:57 AM > *To:* xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [xcat-user] Announcement: xCAT Project > End-Of-Life planned for December 1, 2023 > > This is the saddest thing I've hear in some time. I've had the chance to > support customers with Bright, HP cluster manager, and xCAT. xCAT was by > far the best. > > Thank you for all your work, I hope that a transition can happen! > > Thanks, Brian J > > > > On 9/1/23 11:49 AM, Nathan A Besaw via xCAT-user wrote: > > Mark Gurevich, Peter Wong, and I have been the primary xCAT maintainers > for the past few years. This year, we have moved on to new roles unrelated > to xCAT and can no longer continue to support the project. As a result, we > plan to archive the project on December 1, 2023. xCAT 2.16.5, released on > March 7, 2023, is our final planned release. > > We would consider transitioning responsibility for the project to a new > group of maintainers if members of the xCAT community can develop a viable > proposal for future maintenance. > > Thank you all for you support of the project over the past 20+ years. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > xCAT-user mailing > listxCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user > > _______________________________________________ > xCAT-user mailing list > xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user > > > _______________________________________________ > xCAT-user mailing list > xCAT-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcat-user > -- Regards, *Imam Toufique* *213-700-5485*
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