I agree 111% with that ;-)

It's good to have you lurking here Erik!

Aslak

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 15. mai 2002 19:40
> To: Aslak Helles�y; Mathias Bogaert; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Xdoclet-devel] Verbose
>
>
> And I agree with this sentiment 110%.  Its just good software design to
> reduce coupling anyway.
>
> But, it still remains that when you are running within Ant your output
> should go through Ant's mechanisms.  The same will be true for IDE
> integration - you'll want your output to go through its mechanisms.
>
> Have a look at Ant's new <input> task at how its implemented - this is a
> task that allows pluggable InputHandlers so that Ant could get input from
> console, properties files, or from a GUI.  Perhaps something like that
> should be applied to XDoclet where its got its own internal
> logging API that
> writes to Ant's log when running within Ant and adapts to other mechanisms
> when not within Ant.
>
>     Erik
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aslak Helles�y" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mathias Bogaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [Xdoclet-devel] Verbose
>
>
> > I think we should try to break the tight coupling with Ant. There will
> > always be people who want to use XDoclet, but not Ant. -Simply because
> they
> > don't have time to learn to write Ant scripts. Believe me, these people
> > exist.
> >
> > Currently the Ant coupling is related to Ant tasks and property
> replacement.
> > It should be possible to invoke XDoclet via an Antless API too (IDEs
> plugins
> > would like that I think)
> >
> > Therefore, I think we should _not_ couple ourself more to Ant than we
> > probably are.
> >
> > My 0.02$
> >
> > Aslak
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mathias
> > > Bogaert
> > > Sent: 16. mai 2002 04:02
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Xdoclet-devel] Verbose
> > >
> > >
> > > Ant has rich capabilities to do logging (-v(erbose),
> -outputfile, -debug
> > > etc). But now that I migrated the entire logging stuff to
> > > commons-logging, I
> > > feel no need to go logging through Ant.
> > > On the other hand, Ant is our 'father' app, so we should output
> everything
> > > using ant.
> > >
> > > Migrating, this time to Ant, will be another big task, so maybe
> something
> > > for the next release.
> > >
> > > What do you guys think?
> > >
> > > Mathias
> > >
> > >
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