Am 01.10.2010 um 08:25 schrieb Tobias Schoel:

> Hi,
> 
> of course, any document has structure and formatting, even plain txt-files 
> have. That's not the point. The point I made, and you wrote it yourself:
> - In TeX you explicitly  state the structure/format.

In TeX you cannot state the structure because TeX is a low-level typesetting 
system that offers only a few low-level primitives and a macro language. Macro 
packages such as LaTeX and ConTeXt Mk II try to simulate a generalized markup 
language using the macro language, but still there is very little structure in 
a LaTeX document compared to, say, a DocBook document.

> They don't use headlines and bold faces to give their document structure, 
> they do it to give it Phluff, glamour, whatever. And when they enter their 
> first headline, section title or whatever special element, they click at the 
> little "bold"-symbol, then at the little number and change it to 20, then at 
> the "centering"-symbol. And then, they think: that's not phluffy enough: lets 
> click at "italics", "underline" and make it "comic sans". Ah, no I hate that 
> font, make it Arial, ah no, make it back to times new roman. Hey, what about 
> making it symbol or windings?

Who cares how a document has been produced or how it looks like as long as you 
can read its contents?

> Sure, you can create documents in a structured way by using tools other than 
> tex&co., even by using ms office. But children and students can't. And if you 
> want children to do, ms office&co. won't let you. Use TeX to demonstrate, to 
> make clear as sky the difference:
> 
> structure.

I don't know why this discussion should be relevant at all, but no: there is 
nothing more of the so-called "structure" in a LaTeX document than in a Word 
document. Both systems support formatting *and* semantical markup. For most 
documents semantical markup is irrelevant, and for those where it's relevant it 
can easily be done in Word with things like  formatting styles.


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