This is NOT a bug. The ATI Rage128 chipset on the All-In-Wonder 128 Pro
video card is actually locked into a refresh rate of 60 Hz at 800X600
resolution when TV is enabled. The card itself cannot produce two different
refresh rates at the same time to satisfy both your monitor and the TV
signal. However, the Xserver's default of dropping out of X when "NO SCREENS
FOUND" error occurs doesn't allow just the TV or monitor display to work
independantly. If you want both you ARE going to have to get a PNP monitor
from a respectible brand company that will support 800X600 resolution at
60Hz and then set X up appropriately to run at that resolution and refresh
rate on your display.

Hope this helped.

Kevin88

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [XFree86] Re: TV-out messes up things when TV is plugged in


> On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 22:53, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote:
> >
> > >This is a cool bug!
> > >
> > >I have ATI AiW 128 Pro 16 Mb card with TV-out. This is a Page 128 Pro
PF
> > >chip, I belive. I get no output on display when I start xfree86
> > >with TV plugged in. Everything works without TV.
> > >
> > >Let's be fair, switching to virtual console works and I can do work
there,
> > >so it's not a complete freeze or crush - just no signal in graphics
mode
> > >with TV in.
> > >
> > >Let's be fair once more, Windows 98 also behaves funny. Plugging in TV
> > >halves the refresh rate or something. Sort of, the card splits the
signal
> > >into two outputs, to TV and to the monitor, but at least I get the
signal.
> > >TV requires 800x600 at 60 Hz signal; without TV I get 120 Hz on the
monitor
> > >at the same resolution.
> > >
> > >Mike, as far as Red Hat 8.0.94 goes, anaconda fails to recognize the
card
> > >properly when the TV is plugged in. I recognizes it as Rage 128,
instead of
> > >Rage 128 Pro. Then, graphical installation doesn't work, etc. Without
> > >TV everything works like a magic.
> >
> > Hmm.  That is weird because our autodetection tools are keyed of
> > PCI ID.  Every PCI ID has one driver assigned to it only, and
> > when that ID is detected, the driver name is looked up in
> > pcitable, and then the driver selection looked up in the Cards
> > database.
> >
> > I can't imagine why you would see Rage 128 one time and Rage 128
> > Pro another time.  Doesn't make much sense to me.  One thing
> > though, is that the name is just cosmetic anyway.  Any Rage 128
> > anything chip, get's ultimately assigned to the "r128" driver, so
> > you can manually pick any random Rage128 chip instead of using
> > autodetection, and you'll end up with a possibly misnamed card
> > name in your config file, but with an otherwise identical
> > configuration.
> >
> > Your problem is indeed interesting though.  Could you put logs
> > and configs somewhere to have a peek at.  The logs might show
> > some clues.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > TTYL
>
> I had exactly the same problem except I didn't tie the two things
> together, tv plugged in and lose of x. My previous old monitor showed a
> screen but it was really distorted like the the refresh rate had gone
> haywire. My new 17" monitor flashes up a dialog to say "refresh out of
> range, 25hz" or words to that effect.
>
> Tony
>
>
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