On Mon, 22 May 2006, CLEMENT Francis wrote: > First problem : Use of A domain entry (exist) even if Mx entries exist = > for > the destination domain > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Below is the xmail error report (relay denied but this is not the real > problem) when sending mail to a account at ifrance.com=20 > ************************ > [<00>] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=3D[554 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Relay access denied] > > > [<01>] Error sending message [1119891256115.696.887d.mail0] from > [groupeab.com]. > > ID: <S30313> > Mail From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Rcpt To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Server: <ifrance.com> [ifrance.com] > > > [<02>] The reason of the delivery failure was: > > 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Relay access denied > > > [<04>] Here is listed the message log file: > > [PeekTime] 1119890607 : Mon, 20 May 2005 18:43:27 +0200 > << > ErrCode =3D -82 > ErrString =3D [RCPT TO:] not permitted by remote SMTP server > ErrInfo =3D 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Relay access denied > SMAIL SMTP-Send FF =3D "ifrance.com" SMTP =3D "mx.groupeab.com" From = > =3D > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error =3D "554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Relay access denied" > SMTP-Server =3D "ifrance.com"
I tried to send a mail to a fake account on ifrance.com, and after exactly 10 seconds I've got a "not existing mailbox" from their MX. Prolly you hit a temporary network problem on either your or their side. BTW, ifrance.com has *one* MX server (mailrecv.ifrance.com.), not many. > Second problem : On no existing destination domains, Xmail don't return > immediatly a NDR but start the 'normal' retry process > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Below is the xmail file report when sending mail to a account at 'no > existing' domain 'apem.gr' > ************************ > [PeekTime] 1147966006 : Thu, 18 May 2006 17:26:46 +0200 > << > ErrCode =3D -40 > ErrString =3D Invalid server address > ErrInfo =3D apem.gr > SMAIL SMTP-Send FF =3D "apem.gr" SMTP =3D "mx.groupeab.com" From =3D > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server =3D "apem.gr" >>> > [PeekTime] 1147990673 : Fri, 19 May 2006 00:17:53 +0200 > << > ErrCode =3D -40 > ErrString =3D Invalid server address > ErrInfo =3D apem.gr > SMAIL SMTP-Send FF =3D "apem.gr" SMTP =3D "mx.groupeab.com" From =3D > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server =3D "apem.gr" >>> > [PeekTime] 1147998436 : Fri, 19 May 2006 02:27:16 +0200 > [PeekTime] 1148015781 : Fri, 19 May 2006 07:16:21 +0200 > << > ErrCode =3D -40 > ErrString =3D Invalid server address > ErrInfo =3D apem.gr > SMAIL SMTP-Send FF =3D "apem.gr" SMTP =3D "mx.groupeab.com" From =3D > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" To =3D "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Failed ! > SMTP-Error =3D "417 Temporary delivery error" > SMTP-Server =3D "apem.gr" >>> > .. > .. > (same til last retry then ndr send to sender). > ************************ > Dns lookup for agem.gr returns 'No existing domain' (from xmail server = > or > microsoft dns server), as dnsreport too > (http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=3Dapem.gr) > Xmail try to send and retries, retries, until the final retry. So the = > Ndr is > received only one or two days (depending of the retry parameter) after = > the > initial sending (many customers send and resend the mail during this = > retry > period because the receiver tell them no mail coming ! so the queue = > generaly > have multiple times the same mail 'waiting' for 'nothing') > This is not a problem for me as many others reasons need to 'retry' = > (real > '417' error from destination server for example) but for no existing = > domain, > I think the ndr must be immediate as it is equivalent to a 5xx error > (permanent error). This could be changed, maybe being configuration based. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]