Tim,
Why don't you just follow the unsubscribe directions at the bottom of this
entire message rather than shouting at the entire listserv?
Rachel
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Welker, Tim
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 5:33 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: OAGIS appropriate for small biz?
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>
> Get my e-mail address off this list!
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>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kanaskie, Kurt A (Kurt) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 10:09 AM
> > To: 'Bob Haugen'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: OAGIS appropriate for small biz?
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > I know Oracle for a fact has stated that it will support
> OAG out-of-the-box
> > in their 11i release. This will be their own
> implementation. However, I
> > don't know which OAG BODs they will support. I am waiting
> for a reply. This
> > info might be on their web site.
> >
> > I don't know of any single vendor that has implemented all
> of the BODs. No
> > single vendor may due to the breadth of the OAG
> specification. For example
> > Lucent uses Oracle for some aspects of manufacturing, SAP
> for financials,
> > PeopleSoft for HR. Certainly PeopleSoft will not be able to
> support all of
> > the BODs because some are out of their scope.
> >
> > Within the OAG we are working on a Vendor Challenge (soon
> to be announced)
> > project which challenges vendors that have "stated support"
> for OAG to
> > actually show that they can and will support them. The goal
> of this project
> > is not to demonstrate integration with OAG, that has been
> done (see OAG's
> > web site for info on 26+ live sites), but to get vendors to
> take ownership
> > of the support. I am very sensitive, as you are, to the lip
> service some ERP
> > vendors have given to OAG and other standards support. We
> (OAG) are also
> > working on a vendor scorecard which would rate them based
> on their level of
> > support.
> >
> > Finally, it is certainly Lucent's vision to have the level of
> > interoperability you imply, just send us an OAG message.
> However, I must be
> > realistic. The OAG BODs in their current form do not support this
> > unambiguous, non-negotiated interchange. This is one of the
> areas where
> > Lucent is working with the OAG to improve. I truly believe it will.
> >
> > I can safely say that these thoughts DO represent those of
> Lucent and the
> > OAG.
> > Cheers,
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > Kurt Kanaskie
> > Lucent Technologies
> > CIO Strategy, Planning & Architecture
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (610) 712-3096
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Haugen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 12:51 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: OAGIS appropriate for small biz?
> >
> > Kurt Kanaskie wrote:
> >
> > > There are a lot of XML groups working this effort [B2B ecommerce
> > standards].
> > >The OAG is just one. It is one that Lucent is using and
> working to improve.
> >
> > > I am working on a number of projects within the OAG to this end.
> >
> > Kurt, do you know which of the OAG member ERP systems have fully
> > implemented the OAGIS standards, including the XML ones?
> > I mean, if you send them any OAGIS standard transaction in
> XML form,
> > can they handle it both for import and export?
> >
> > (If the reason for my question is not obvious, I have lots
> experience
> > with software vendors announcing things that don't really
> work...especially
> > in the area of interoperability. It sounds like you have some real
> > experience to draw from.)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob Haugen
> > Logistical Software LLC
> >
> >
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