Thursday, April 26, 2012, 12:02:48 PM, Hussein Shafie wrote:

> On 04/26/2012 10:17 AM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>> When you try to insert something from the clipboard, if that would
>> make the document invalid, simply nothing happens (no error message).
>> I think if the user issues a command that XXE recognizes then
>> *something* should happen. Also it would be helpful to tell why the
>> inserting can't be done. I can figure that out because I know XML
>
> Sorry but we don't see how this could be implemented given the current
> design of XXE:
>
> [a] When an action --whatever this action-- could make the document 
> invalid, the corresponding toolbar button and/or the corresponding menu
> item is silently grayed/disabled.
>
> [b] On the contrary, when an action is allowed given the schema being 
> used, the current selection, the contents of the clipboard, etc, the 
> corresponding toolbar button and/or the corresponding menu item is 
> silently enabled.
>
> [a] and [b] occur very, very, often (each time you change the editing 
> context) and hence, should be quick and seamless.

I meant pasting with Ctrl+V, not with icons and such. You press
Ctrl+V, nothing happens. (This is the same kind of issue as the one I
have reported for the attribute panel: no feedback.)

>> well, but I'm very certain less specialized users find this annoying
>> and confusing.
>>
>
> I'm afraid that anyone used to word processors or to low-level XML 
> editors  (i.e. programmer's XML editors) will anyway find the user 
> interface of XXE annoying and confusing.

I suppose that's one of your major problems when trying to sell XXE
so, it's worths improving where it's possible.

> Unless, of course, the aforementioned persons take the time to learn how
> XXE works:
>
> Tutorial: Copy, Cut, Paste and Delete
> http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/_tutorial/copy_paste/index.html

That will not help the user to figure out why he can't paste. (An
example: the user wants to copy-paste from one DocBook to another.
Only, one is namespaceless DocBook 4(?), the other is a DocBook 5. The
local element names would be fine... Me or you will figure the problem
out, but the average technical writer... I doubt that.)

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