Hi, I tried separate screen and monitor sections.
WITHOUT the line:      Option       "Display" "CRT" 
it just starts the laptop screen in 1400x1050, and then Fn-F8
starts the external monitor in 1400x1050.

WITH the line:     Option       "Display" "CRT" 
it shuts off the laptop display, turns on the external monitor
at 1600x1200, but the image is all wavey/jittery/turbulent.
(see appended addional info)

It's a start.  Other suggestions?

Steve


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Steve wrote:
> I have a laptop - external monitor problem and will *gladly*
> send $25 to the first person who posts the critical
> info to get it running correctly.  Let me buy you lunch ...
> just wish I could be there too :-)
> 
> Here's the issue -
> 
> I'm running XFree86 Version 4.1.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.1.0-3)
> on Redhat 7.2 on a Dell Inspiron 8000 laptop / ATI Rage 128 Mobility.
> The laptop screen is 1400x1050, and the external monitor is
> 1600x1200.  I can run the external monitor at 1400x1050,
> but I really need to drive it at 1600x1200.
> 
> When I hit Fn-F8 to switch monitors the external
> monitor works OK, but only at 1400x1050.
> When I put the line 
>         Option       "Display" "CRT" 
> in the Device section, the laptop screen turns off and the external
> turns on automatically, without Fn-F8.
> But it's at 1400x1050, and is all wavey/jittery/turbulent.
> 
> How can I get the external monitor running at 1600x1200?
> The config and log files are appended below.
> 
> Again, my offer is serious and is for the first person
> who offers the full solution.

"Mohammad A. Haque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did you try setting up two monitor stanzas for each your monitors for 
> defining what resolution should be run?



=================== /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ======================

# File generated by anaconda.

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "Anaconda Configured"
        Screen      0  "Screen1" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

    RgbPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

    FontPath   "unix/:7100"

EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load  "GLcore"
        Load  "dbe"
        Load  "extmod"
        Load "fbdevhw"
        Load "pex5"
        Load "dri"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "pex5"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "keyboard"

#       Option  "AutoRepeat"    "500 5"

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
#       Option  "Protocol"      "Xqueue"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#       Option  "Xleds"         "1 2 3"

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#       Option  "XkbDisable"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#       Option  "XkbModel"      "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#       Option  "XkbModel"      "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#       Option  "XkbLayout"     "de"
# or:
#       Option  "XkbLayout"     "de"
#       Option  "XkbVariant"    "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#       Option  "XkbOptions"    "ctrl:nocaps"
        Option  "XkbRules"      "xfree86"
        Option  "XkbModel"      "microsoftpro"
        Option  "XkbLayout"     "us"
        Option  "XkbVariant"    "basic"
        #Option "XkbOptions"    ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Mouse0"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "PS/2"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/psaux"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Monitor Model"
        HorizSync   31.5-90
        VertRefresh 59-75
        Option "dpms"


        # -- 1400x1050 --
        # 1400x1050 @ 60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
        Modeline "1400x1050"  129   1400 1464 1656 1960
                              1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync


EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor1"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
                       ModelName    "Monitor Model"
        HorizSync   31.5-90
        VertRefresh 59-75
        Option "dpms"

        # -- 1600x1200 --
        # 1600x1200 @ 60Hz, 75.00 kHz hsync
        Modeline "1600x1200"  162   1600 1664 1856 2160
                                1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync

EndSection

Section "Device"
        # no known options
        Identifier   "ATI Rage 128 Mobility"
        Driver       "r128"
        VendorName   "ATI Rage 128 Mobility"
        BoardName     "ATI Rage 128 Mobility"
        Option       "Display" "CRT" 
        
        #BusID
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier   "Screen0"
        Device       "ATI Rage 128 Mobility"
        Monitor      "Monitor0"
        DefaultDepth    24

        Subsection "Display"
                Depth       24
                Modes       "1400x1050" 
        EndSubsection

EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier   "Screen1"
        Device       "ATI Rage 128 Mobility"
        Monitor      "Monitor1"
        DefaultDepth    24

        Subsection "Display"
                Depth       24
                Modes       "1600x1200" 
        EndSubsection

EndSection

Section "DRI"
        Mode 0666
EndSection


================================== log file ===========================

XFree86 Version 4.1.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.1.0-3) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: 2 June 2001
        If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
        newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
        reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.7-0.13.1smp i686 [ELF] 
Build Host: stripples.devel.redhat.com
 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Fri May  3 14:06:26 2002
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
         (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Anaconda Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen1" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor1"
(**) |   |-->Device "ATI Rage 128 Mobility"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) XKB: model: "microsoftpro"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(**) XKB: variant: "basic"
(**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF rev 0, Mem @ 0xe8000000/26, 0xfcffc000/14, 
I/O @ 0xcc00/8
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
(II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a
(II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.0.2
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libpex5.a
(II) Module pex5: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
(II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a
(II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
(II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a
(II) Module record: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.13.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxie.a
(II) Module xie: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o
(II) Module r128: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 4.0.1
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o
(II) Module ati: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 6.3.6
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.3.6) for chipsets: ati, ativga
(II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets: ATI Rage 128 RE (PCI),
        ATI Rage 128 RF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RG (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RK (PCI),
        ATI Rage 128 RL (AGP), ATI Rage 128 SM (AGP),
        ATI Rage 128 Pro PD (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Pro PF (AGP),
        ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TL (AGP),
        ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA TR (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility LE (PCI),
        ATI Rage 128 Mobility LF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF (AGP),
        ATI Rage 128 Mobility ML (AGP)
(II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
        ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP),
        ATI Radeon VE QY (AGP), ATI Radeon VE QZ (AGP),
        ATI Radeon Mobility LW (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility LY (AGP),
        ATI Radeon Mobility LZ (AGP)
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(--) Chipset ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF (AGP) found
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
(II) Module vgahw: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0
(II) R128(0): PCI bus 1 card 0 func 0
(**) R128(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(II) R128(0): Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps)
(==) R128(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) R128(0): RGB weight 888
(II) R128(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC)
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a
(II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) R128(0): initializing int10
(II) R128(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
(--) R128(0): Chipset: "ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF (AGP)" (ChipID = 0x4d46)
(--) R128(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xe8000000
(--) R128(0): MMIO registers at 0xfcffc000
(--) R128(0): VideoRAM: 16384 kByte (128-bit SDR SGRAM 1:1)
(**) R128(0): Using external CRT for display
(II) R128(0): Panel size: 1400x1050
(II) R128(0): Panel ID: IBM ITSX95              
(II) R128(0): Panel Type: Color, Single, TFT
(II) R128(0): Panel Interface: LVDS
(II) R128(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=60 min=12500 max=25000; xclk=10500
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a
(II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a
(II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) R128(0): VESA BIOS detected
(II) R128(0): VESA VBE DDC supported
(II) R128(0): Manufacturer: DEL  Model: a002  Serial#: 825246008
(II) R128(0): Year: 2002  Week: 9
(II) R128(0): EDID Version: 1.3
(II) R128(0): Analog Display Input,  Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.300 V
(II) R128(0): Sync:  Separate  Composite  SyncOnGreen
(II) R128(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 41  vert.: 31
(II) R128(0): Gamma: 2.50
(II) R128(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
(II) R128(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode
(II) R128(0): GTF timings supported
(II) R128(0): redX: 0.630 redY: 0.340   greenX: 0.300 greenY: 0.590
(II) R128(0): blueX: 0.149 blueY: 0.109   whiteX: 0.312 whiteY: 0.328
(II) R128(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
(II) R128(0): 720x400@70Hz
(II) R128(0): 640x480@60Hz
(II) R128(0): 640x480@75Hz
(II) R128(0): 800x600@60Hz
(II) R128(0): 800x600@75Hz
(II) R128(0): 1024x768@60Hz
(II) R128(0): 1024x768@75Hz
(II) R128(0): 1280x1024@75Hz
(II) R128(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
(II) R128(0): Supported Future Video Modes:
(II) R128(0): #0: hsize: 1280  vsize 1024  refresh: 60  vid: 32897
(II) R128(0): #1: hsize: 1600  vsize 1200  refresh: 60  vid: 16553
(II) R128(0): #2: hsize: 1152  vsize 864  refresh: 75  vid: 20337
(II) R128(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) R128(0): clock: 162.0 MHz   Image Size:  367 x 275 mm
(II) R128(0): h_active: 1600  h_sync: 1664  h_sync_end 1856 h_blank_end 2160 h_border: 0
(II) R128(0): v_active: 1200  v_sync: 1201  v_sync_end 1204 v_blanking: 1250 v_border: 0
(II) R128(0): Serial No: 9E24922Q10A80
(II) R128(0): Monitor name: DELL 2000FP
(II) R128(0): Ranges: V min: 56  V max: 76 Hz, H min: 31  H max: 80 kHz, PixClock max 
160 MHz
(==) R128(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(II) R128(0): Monitor1: Using hsync range of 31.50-90.00 kHz
(II) R128(0): Monitor1: Using vrefresh range of 59.00-75.00 Hz
(II) R128(0): Clock range:  12.50 to 250.00 MHz
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "640x400" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "720x400" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(--) R128(0): Virtual size is 1600x1200 (pitch 1600)
(**) R128(0): Mode "1600x1200": 162.0 MHz, 75.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz
(--) R128(0): Display dimensions: (41, 31) cm
(--) R128(0): DPI set to (99, 98)
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a
(II) Module fb: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a
(II) Module ramdac: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a
(II) Module xaa: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
(--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
(==) R128(0): Write-combining range (0xe8000000,0x1000000)
(WW) R128(0): Static buffer allocation failed -- need at least 22500 kB video memory
(II) R128(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1600,2621)
(II) R128(0): Reserved area from (0,1200) to (1600,1202)
(II) R128(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1600 x 1419
(==) R128(0): Backing store disabled
(==) R128(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) R128(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
        Screen to screen bit blits
        Solid filled rectangles
        8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles
        Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion
        Solid Lines
        Dashed Lines
        Scanline Image Writes
        Offscreen Pixmaps
        Setting up tile and stipple cache:
                32 128x128 slots
                9 256x256 slots
                4 512x512 slots
(II) R128(0): Acceleration enabled
(II) R128(0): Using hardware cursor (scanline 4808)
(II) R128(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1600 x 1418
(**) R128(0): DPMS enabled
(II) R128(0): Direct rendering disabled
(**) Mouse0: Protocol: "PS/2"
(**) Mouse0: Core Pointer
(==) Mouse0: Buttons: 3
(**) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
(**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(II) Keyboard "Keyboard0" handled by legacy driver
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE)
XIM DEBUG: SESSION_MANAGER=local/helix:/tmp/.ICE-unix/2191
SetKbdSettings - type: 2 rate: 30 delay: 500 snumlk: 0
SetKbdSettings - Succeeded

Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) pointer to `GtkOptionMenu'

Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkoptionmenu.c: line 248 (gtk_option_menu_set_history): 
assertion `option_menu != NULL' failed.
AUDIT: Fri May  3 14:06:30 2002: 2188 X: client 5 rejected from local host
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xscreensaver: Can't open display: :0
xscreensaver: initial effective uid/gid was root/root (0/0)
xscreensaver: running as nobody/nobody (99/99)

xscreensaver: This is probably because you're logging in as root.  You
              shouldn't log in as root: you should log in as a normal user,
              and then `su' as needed.  If you insist on logging in as
              root, you will have to turn off X's security features before
              xscreensaver will work.

              Please read the manual and FAQ for more information:

              http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html
              http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/man.html


Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find handler containing 
data (0x816A340)
Message: Successfully registered 
`OAFIID:nautilus_factory:bd1e1862-92d7-4391-963e-37583f0daef3'
Message: Successfully registered `OAFIID:Bonobo_Moniker_std_Factory'

waiting for X server to shut down Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit 
kill or server shutdown).


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