-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:29:40 +0200 Pasi Lallinaho <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey Lionel, > > good to hear your thoughts too. > > On 12/11/2011 03:10 PM, Lionel Le Folgoc wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for working on this topic. > > > > On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 05:27:08AM -0600, Micah Gersten wrote: > >> So, as discussed around UDS time, we need to make an official request > >> for Xubuntu to be labeled as an LTS release. > >> Here are what I think we can sanely commit to: > >> > >> 3 yr LTS > >> Milestone image testing i386/amd64 (including point release updates post > >> release) > > That's fine to me, as long as people are able to provide testing for so > > much time (either milestone image or stable release updates). > > As the testing team seems to be quite healthy now, I don't see why this > wouldn't be possible. Testing team, what are your thoughts? Since I do the majority of the milestone testing, I don't see any issues. I already test Ubuntu for the milestones, I can just as easily test Xubuntu instead. > > >> Best effort High/Critical bug fixes > > We already do something like that (I can roughly define our current way > > as: "Remember to fix important bugs in older releases when we have time > > and didn't forget about them because someone has used the 'nominate for > > release' button on Launchpad or because many people are complaining on > > forums or mailing lists"). > > > > I'm not sure that users are happy with it though, i.e. if they feel that > > there's no support after a release, or that updates take so much time to > > be distributed that they had to rely on PPAs (and so we've lost testers > > for stable release updates). > > I don't see how they would be unhappy. We have a way to file (important) > bugs in older releases, and if people fail to file them correctly or in > fair amount of time after they saw the bug, there's not much we can do > about the bugs, unless we spot them ourselves. As far as I understand, > our bug triaging works very well too, so that shouldn't be the problem. > If it's about developers not having enough time, I hope there is more > communication - espeacially now as we share Xfce with Ubuntu Studio - > they might be able to fix a number of bugs too. > > >> Best effort security fixes for Xfce related packages > > There have been very few bugs flagged as security issues in Xfce > > (CVE-2007-3770 and CVE-2011-1588 are the only recent ones I'm aware of > > -- also the disputed CVE-2009-4996), so I agree we can commit to that > > sanely. > > > >> This would be made easier if Xubuntu Precise would be aligned with > >> Debian for their Wheezy release with the same base Xfce version. With a > >> proposed March 2012 release date for 4.10, it's possible that Debian > >> could move to that release before their freeze during the summer. > >> > > Due to the reduced number of active Xfce developers, their release > > schedule isn't very reliable... That's why I didn't want to target 4.10 > > for precise (Debian has 2 or 3 extra months before their freeze). Now if > > many people here think the opposite, I don't want to prevent them from > > working on that goal, we can still go for it. That might imply a buggy > > release though, with bugs fixed by lots of -proposed/-updates uploads > > shortly after (similar to what is done for other parts of Ubuntu ;-). > > For the 12.04 LTS, I'd want as stable system as possible, even if that > meant not pushing 4.10 in, even if it was released (half-baked) on time. > > >> Comments? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Micah > >> > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Cheers, > Pasi > - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO5gsAAAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAQz4IAJnTIPKE/igXg4jtJaTHGe1N 4m2+rT8b0FPxh1MAkXuuLpcdpTwafeHCjjfVrVrZyZR8Bz/lzcaDK4DcR8sHcNHW 0PcdfOfAzNLSzmIr4rWxqbnCuPk3uLlfuVPS4SLxZ6L8H8CWj2u/JhkmpRiHX45Q adHaKnVuvMz4QBc8bGMLw4zIbDLTUgNJlMDI3i+yRWQFLS3mQtuwlF/Y3Kt4IO10 otxFjzwpeNilWqGZYGETASHAQ7/jIGkPLMbmmxXCwyZuyendDOWu2d3A8rcRbGsy vclw3lHC1otfyvyVxRt/WRW6Du1evoBJ019gfBc398u6RcIuOjsx0i8iaQyYmJI= =CgEF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- xubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
