On 2015-01-29 01:40, Bruno Benitez wrote:
I think that the basic use of an image editor for a standard user are the ones signaled on the tables on the comparison page [1], Croping, Adding text, Rezise, Rotate, Navigate Folders. The only thing a good image viewer still lacks on linux is adding text, thats the only thing from the list that only Gimp could bring. My case is to get rid of both Gimp and Ristretto and leave an image viewer with basic editing capabilities like gThumb[2] or Shotwell[3]. As stated by many before anyone who would need more can get any of the available image editors in the repositories. If what we are looking is to give a tool so anyone can rapidly start drawing on a xubuntu install, there are simplier yet powerful tools like MyPaint[4] and Krita[5] that could also be considered.

The list of standard features that are mentioned on the wiki are still valid.

After moving Ristretto in and out (and lastly, in) and messing around with gThumb, I'm pretty sure we've "figured out" our image viewer needs; we should keep Ristretto for now and focus on the image editors. If we change the image editor, maybe the image viewer issue can be brought up again after that.

I've used MyPaint myself, but I don't really consider it a fair replacement for GIMP. You can create fancy looking stuff with it, but it's clearly geared towards digital painting, not image editing.

Krita is KDE/Qt, so that makes it pretty much out of question.


[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Oneiric/DefaultImageEditor
[2] http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gthumb
[3] http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/shotwell
[4] http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/mypaint
[5] http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/krita

2015-01-28 20:23 GMT-03:00 David Bermúdez Guiot <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    OK, first of all, sorry for the shortness of my contribution.
    Allow me to explain a bit.

    We are thinking about standard on the go users who run Xubuntu
    Live,  I think GiMP is a great tool for editing and creating photo
    projects. But games, lets be truly sinceres, we dont run it live
    to play, am I right? So thats why Im thinking we use GiMP and
    LibreOffice, someone pointed that Abiword is quite buggy and it is
    indeed. GNUmeric is a good tool but comparing vs LO Calc, it
    loses. Sorry for the english, not my native language. Have a great
    day.

    2015-01-28 16:54 GMT-06:00 Eero Tamminen <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        Hi,

        On torstai 29 tammikuu 2015, David Bermúdez Guiot wrote:
        > Gimp should still be shipped,  however I don't think games
        should be
        > installed.

        Why?  What's your reasoning?


        Btw. Is it possible to have Software Center front page seeded
        with things
that people may want to install first (things like LO, Gimp, etc)?


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        > Since we are discussing about other choices in the default
        seed already,
        > it feels like the perfect time to bring yet another
        discussion to the
        > table:
        >
        > Do we want to keep shipping GIMP?
        >
        > For some background, the team has discussed the issue [1]
        and gone
        > through various simpler alternatives [2] for GIMP a few
        times* in the
        > past, but no suitable candidate was found.
        >
        > Do we think there is a suitable, light and easy-to-use
        alternative for
        > GIMP now? Should we simply drop GIMP altogether and not
        replace it?
        >
        > Discuss.
        >
        > Cheers,
        > Pasi
        >
        > [1]
        https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-July/007864.html
        > [2]
        https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Oneiric/
        > DefaultImageEditor
        > * Most of this isn't archived in an easy-to-access way


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