On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Gerald Bauer wrote:
>
> Ian, can you clarify what other Ghosbuster-related names Mozilla has
> licensed from Warner Brothers or whatever studio holds the rights?
Different product category. Trademarks only apply within the same product
category, as I'm sure you are aware.
The trademark being claimed here is "XUL" in the context of Software.
> Also can you expand on your claim that "XUL" is a Mozilla trademark but
> "XML User Interface Language" is not. How come? How do you abbreviate
> "XML User Interface Language"?
^^^ ^ ^ ^
Taking the first letter of each word: XMLUIL (or maybe XUIL).
We've had this discussion before. Instead of going over old ground, why
don't you simply reply to my earlier e-mails on the subject?
In particular, these are e-mails in discussions we have had on this
mailing list where you have suddenly stopped responding, despite posting
in other threads at the same time:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=5092944
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=5100336
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=5142008
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=5148075
clarified by:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=5148252
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=6366592
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=6371141
The last of these are also available on another site, in case sourceforge
is being unstable again when you reply:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00034.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00040.html
>> We must again ask you to refrain from using the term "XUL" in such a
>> flagrantly confusing way on your Web site and Sourceforge project name.
>
> Ian, can you clarify who is we?
The XUL editors.
> How about http://xui.sourceforge.net ?
I see no mis-use of the term XUL on this page.
> Or how about http://perlxul.sourceforge.net ?
This group is using the actual XUL language, there is no confusion here.
> Or how about http://www.xulux.org ?
I couldn't find any mis-use of the word XUL on that site except for their
allegation that you implement (parts of) Mozilla XUL in luxor-xul. I have
contacted them about this error.
> Or how about http://jxul.sourceforge.net ?
Again, this site appears to be using the term correctly.
> If XUL is a trademark as you claim, how come that XUIL or XUI or XULUX
> or jXUL doesn't cause confusion?
Because they are different acronyms. With only a few letters to play with,
changing even one is enough to indicate a difference. :-) e.g. XML vs XBL,
or HLink vs XLink.
Please stop mis-using XUL on your sites to mean something other than
Mozilla's XUL language.
Cheers,
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