Hi Sree,

I put it to the proposal, please let me know what you think:

The traditional path at Apache would have been to create an incubator
> project, but the code is already being released by Apache and most of the
> developers are familiar with Apache rules and guidelines. In particular,
> the proposed PMC has 2 Apache TLP PMCs and proposed initial committers
> have 4 Apache TLP PMCs (from 3 different companies). They will provide
> oversight and guidance for the developers that are less experienced in the
> Apache Way. Therefore, the Submarine project would like to propose becoming
> a Top Level Project at Apache.
>

To me, putting to TLP has mostly pros, it is an easier process (same as ORC
spin-off from Hive), much less overhead to both dev community and Apache
side.

Thanks,
Wangda

On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 2:04 PM Sree Vaddi <sree_at_ch...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> +1 to move submarine to separate apache project.
>
> It is not clear in the proposal, if submarine majority voted to move to a
> seperate apache project,
> will it go through the incubation and TLP (top level project) later ?
> 1. Incubation
> pros and cons
> efforts towards making it a TLP
>
> 2. direct TLP
>
>
> Thank you.
> /Sree
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 31, 2019, 10:19:06 PM PDT, Wangda Tan <
> wheele...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> As we discussed in the previous thread [1],
>
> I just moved the spin-off proposal to CWIKI and completed all TODO parts.
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HADOOP/Submarine+Project+Spin-Off+to+TLP+Proposal
>
> If you have interests to learn more about this. Please review the proposal
> let me know if you have any questions/suggestions for the proposal. This
> will be sent to board post voting passed. (And please note that the
> previous voting thread [2] to move Submarine to a separate Github repo is a
> necessary effort to move Submarine to a separate Apache project but not
> sufficient so I sent two separate voting thread.)
>
> Please let me know if I missed anyone in the proposal, and reply if you'd
> like to be included in the project.
>
> This voting runs for 7 days and will be concluded at Sep 7th, 11 PM PDT.
>
> Thanks,
> Wangda Tan
>
> [1]
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4a2210d567cbc05af92c12aa6283fd09b857ce209d537986ed800029@%3Cyarn-dev.hadoop.apache.org%3E
> [2]
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6e94469ca105d5a15dc63903a541bd21c7ef70b8bcff475a16b5ed73@%3Cyarn-dev.hadoop.apache.org%3E
>

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