Cde My sentiments exactly, Comrade. Those that did watch the debate on 3rd degree will recall that when Nqaba was asked whether Lekota & Shilowa were capable of being leading the COPE (Shikota) party. His response gave them away, because said currently they don't have a leader but one will be announced on the 16th December, when they launch their party. He even said to Barbara, "You will be surprised who that person would be". To me, this confirmed what I have been suspecting all along. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Thabo Mbeki resigns from the ANC, only a few days before the launch. Viva ANC Viva! Bongani Ntsele
________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Mamphekgo Sent: 04 December 2008 03:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: One Of Thabo Mbeki's Statements Cde Bongani is correct when he says the main culprit behind the Shikotas is Mbeki himself. We do not have to be technical with issues, in politics one should have the ability to analyse situations, by looking beyond what is being presented as a Public Relations exercise, and arrive at certain conclusions. I disagree that every member of the ANC still considers Mbeki, whom I hesitate to refer to as Cde anymore, as a member of the ANC, never mind a loyal one. Only those who are politically blind, or who refuse to acknowledge the truth, will still insist that Mbeki is a loyal cadre of our movement. Indeed, one will not admit in public platforms that Mbeki is no longer our loyal cadre, but we all know that he is just like many others within our ranks who work day and night for the Shikotas. I think the only reason why he is hesitant to declare his true identity publicly is because he does not want to risk his political legacy, for he is not sure about the future of the Shikotas. Iis an understatement to say Mbeki is part of Shikotas, but instead "Shikota is Mbeki's party", finish and klaar. Steve Mamphekgo On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Com Bongani what do u mean Mbeki is leading a group of power Mongols coz as far am concerned the former president has on a number of times clearly said that he is part of and the that he not associated with this Shikota. the view that ever member of the ANC is that cde Mbeki is still a member of the ANC until he...himself hands in his membership card just like all those who have jumped ship. U see Bongani the one thing we all of us should shy away form doing with speed and zealousness is a watch hunting program,we must refuse at any cost the temptation to falsely accuse those among us of things they're not. coz that in itself exposes our weakness both as a movement and as cadres of this movement we claim to love so Mach. all these slogan and rhetoric will not help us... what will help us is that we really start taking a deep look into our hearts and ask the question "are we selflessly serving the young people of our Country". are we putting young South African interests before our own and to a large extend the ANC's interest. we must remember that the ANC governs at the Massey of the masses of our people. that it is the who borrow the ANC this hegemony.People are actually fed up with these political tag of war. they want to rest ensure that their live and the lives of their children are safe in the government of the people. Matimba ------------------------------------------- South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za <http://www.webmail.co.za/> ------------------------------------------------------------------ For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This e-mail is subject to the Telkom SA electronic communication legal notice, available at : http://www.telkom.co.za/TelkomEMailLegalNotice.PDF ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
