Comrades

In a case of an 800 pound bear being in your room and there is one bed.
Where does he sleep? Simple anywhere he wants. Its you who has to ponder.

The government is massive and so is the army. The soldiers that were
dismissed was possibly a stepping stone in govt. drawing a line on certein
conduct. I dont believe they undermined the grievances but it is probably to
say you cant hold government at ransom, especially if you are essential
services.

The dismissals i dont believe is to avoid the grievances but more to deal
with the action taken in addressing the grievance. A line needs to be drawn
at some level.

Remember that govt has a responsibility to uphold the law and secure its
citizen. When the army strikes, that is an obvious deviation from its
responsitbilities and therefore it needed to act.

Surely the soldiers could have 1st opted to exhaust all possible
legal options including exposure by media to push for a debate or highlight
their grievances.

Let us also not forget that the Capitalist laws are mainly economical and
where the army strikes it is not a threat on Communism or Capitalism but a
threat on National Security which is apolitical and witout which neither
Capitalism or Communism can prevail.

Maanda!




On 9/3/09, Mduduzi H Vilakazi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Comrades,
>
> In all my inputs, I have never supported directly or indirectly the actions
> of the minister. I did so because I do not think her actions are
> justifiable. What I was saying remains a fact, the soldiers wronged.
>
> I want us to first dismiss the wrong and fortunately, Cde Mxo, you are
> agreeing with me that the actions of the soldiers are regrettable. Mainly in
> my inputs I used the word "Society", in order to clarify the importance of
> the respect for "Capitalist" law.
>
> I fully concur with comrades that the minister herself erred in this matter
> but she reacted after the "regrettable" actions by the soldiers. Let us
> learn to exhaust all ways social, legal or otherwise before we contradict.
>
> During apartheid, Africans or Blacks would do things and maneuver the way
> out within the difficult circumstances. If we were able then, what can stop
> us now? Will anarchy be the order of the day.
>
> I agree with socialism and communism, but how do we ensure that as we
> pursue the struggle, we also respect the leadership that we have ourselves
> put in power? How do we make them accountable to our needs without
> bureaucratic engagements or negotiations? What simple paths can we use
> without recreating a black-by-black violence? and lastly, how should
> communists ignore the capitalist setup that we confront in our everyday
> lives including all the "Capitalist" laws?
>
> Answers to these questions are important in order to be able to separate a
> communist from a capitalist in a capitalist-oriented society. Capitalism
> lives with us everyday, shall we ignore it and all of us end in the same
> capitalist jails? Is that the view?
>
> Asikhulume!
>
>
>
> >>> "Mxolisi Mlatha" <[email protected]> 03/09/2009 11:11 >>>
>
>
> Comrade Vilakazi
>
> Social intelligence not even legal knowledge will tell you
> that the law and appropriateness of an action do not always
> move in tandem. It is precisely the official dom of the law
> that has tied the hands of the soldiers to the extent that
> they acted in the regrettable manner that they did.
>
> If you had done your research you would have learned that
> it is still a contestable fact on the part of SANDU, so the
> fact that is claimed about a legal march is not a foregone
> conclusion. All these indicate that the waters are so
> muddied unfortunately the Minister might have steeped in
> the muddied waters by here action rather than be above the
> crisis. Every one has a right to be presumed innocent you
> cant dismiss and then provide a hearing, by so doing you
> are giving the indication of an unwilling ear.
>
> "The State is but the Executive of the ruling class".. How
> true is the workers are so trampled on...
>
> Mxolisi
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