Amandla!!!! On 2/4/10, zingisani nkanjeni <[email protected]> wrote: > > Revolutionary Greetings Cdes of the Movement. > > I respect your views to these forum and respect you as members of the > movement but I would like to edge you to stop this discussion about the > president. Lets respect his personal life and position as country president > and ANC. We have many important issues that we should discus about that > affects young people general than talking about Zuma being a father. > > - We have issue of HIV & AIDS > - Education Crisis in our country > - Service deliveries in Our Communities > > These issue are there who should disscus by this forum. > > Amandla > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM, sibusiso Mchunu <[email protected]>wrote: > >> how one knows whether Zuma and child's mother did test for HIV before the >> gymnastics, (remember these are adults who may choose to run their life as >> they want)and we have more important thinto worry about that what people do >> in privately. >> >> as people you can *not model* your life to an individual, cos that is why >> we end up having members of a principal member. as Zamani, has said it >> better,...Cope was formed because of this very reason of members of another >> member. when an organization act on the principal member...the followers >> (membership) of the Principal member of the organization followed and COPE >> was born. >> >> that is why we have our own brains to use meaningfully therefore one can't >> suspend his/her brain and let another person's brain to think for >> you...when that brain disappoint you...you want us all to know about the >> person you (freely chose without telling of your choice you) look up to has >> fail you. >> >> i thing also if we were to behave the same-way or as expected, life would >> be boring and we can even all of us be sweepstakes winners at once. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/3/10, zamani nhlangulela <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Ayi sivelelweke yiCOPE manje. Don't you have anything that you can say >>> that >>> talks towards finding solutions of the country's problems and not Zuma's? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Molaole MONTSHO >>> Sent: 03 February 2010 10:47 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Dear Mr President Jacob Zuma >>> >>> >>> Let those who did not sin be the first to throw the stone... >>> >>> How judgemental are we.. >>> We have not heard Zuma's respond to the love child issue and yet he is >>> being crucified, how many leaders secretly have babies out of wedlock? >>> How >>> did the news reach journalists, is there an agenda behind this or the >>> issue is in the public domain cos the President is involve? >>> >>> [email protected] wrote: >>> > Check out this letter, and I'm not a Cope member either!! >>> > >>> > >>> > Dear Mr President Jacob Zuma >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > After having read the front page story of the Sunday Times >>> (31/01/2010), >>> > I feel compelled to write to you as this ordinary citizen that I am. >>> > Because I am a commoner, my judgement of your actions could be regarded >>> > as disrespect. Equally you might be indulging in all these sordid acts >>> > because you feel that you cannot be questioned and brought to book. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > As a young man I have an interest in the way in which those in power >>> are >>> > behaving, so as to ensure that we have good, moral and ethical leaders >>> > to look upon. A public figure who does not inspire confidence or does >>> > not conduct themselves in a manner that seek to inspire development of >>> > society, should be eliminated from the limelight and sent into the >>> > deepest of corners so that their misleading acts are shunned. To me you >>> > happen to be such an individual. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > In your address during your inauguration and also in your first State >>> of >>> > the Nation address, you emphasised greatly on moral regeneration. The >>> > reason why religion has seemingly failed to produce members that embody >>> > the values taught in religious institutions is because the preachers >>> > themselves are failing to be upright leaders who live out what they >>> > preach. You are such a preacher to me. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Given your past record that displays you as a man who is easily tempted >>> > by indulging in sexual intercourse, it is very difficult for me to >>> throw >>> > water over the claims made by the Sunday Times. To me it is irrelevant >>> > that the person you impregnated is the daughter of Dr Irvin "The Iron >>> > Duke" Khoza, I would still feel the same way even if it was just yet >>> > another woman. If this baby was born under normal circumstances, it >>> > means that you must have slept with this lady around January 2009. >>> > During the same time you had already paid Lobola for Thobeka >>> Madiba-Zuma >>> > and you were planning your wedding day with her. At the same time you >>> > were already having the pleasure of being attended to by two wives. I >>> > suppose given that you were busy campaigning for the 2009 General >>> > Elections, the challenges that you faced couldn't be accommodated by >>> > your wives, you needed to find solace and release your masculine energy >>> > on another woman outside wedlock. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > What nauseates me the most is the fact that this lady got pregnant, >>> > meaning you had unprotected sex yet again. To me it is clear that you >>> > have unprotected sex with your wives, because you do it so easily with >>> > "omakhwapheni". It means you are a risk to your wives, because you seem >>> > to be fishing for HIV, so that you can take the catch home and >>> > distribute it evenly amongst them. Unless there is preventive >>> medication >>> > for HIV that you have and we the ordinary people do not have access to. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The Zulu Kingdom should be ashamed at how you have paraded their >>> culture >>> > of polygamy, a culture that is in fact to me very demeaning of women. >>> To >>> > me it symbolises true qualities of chauvinism and patriarchy, whereby >>> if >>> > a man is not satisfied with one woman, then they can go get another. >>> > Meanwhile society would vilify a woman who would take a second man. >>> > Polygamy also promotes cheating on your wife, because you must first >>> > know the second wife, well in your case sixth, intimately on stolen >>> > moments away from your wife. So during that time you are lying to your >>> > wife or wives claiming to be seeing no one besides them and even to >>> God, >>> > whom you made such a pact with when getting married. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Polygamy reduces women to objects that are used to just satisfy the >>> egos >>> > of many men out there, who see having many women as a sense of >>> > superiority and achievement. To me this is a very small minded sense of >>> > thinking. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I cannot have you preach morality to me when you partake in such >>> > disgusting acts that make me feel if only I was not a South African. >>> > When a sex scandal broke off about Mr Bill Clinton, he had to step down >>> > as President of the USA. The President of the World Bank stepped down >>> > after such allegations were tabled against him. However to you it is >>> > just yet another day another dollar and nothing will happen, because >>> you >>> > are hiding behind tradition and using it to camouflage your helpless >>> > sexuality. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You are a man who does not respect women clearly, a man who does not >>> > believe in treating your wives with the best respect they deserve. I >>> > doubt maKhumalo is happily married to you, but she is probably fearful >>> > of what shall become of her if she were to leave you. It is unfortunate >>> > that the majority of the people in your organisation find your acts >>> > acceptable; it goes to show how the morals of the ANC have become >>> > fragmented over the years. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You occupy the highest seat in our land and many people will find a way >>> > of using your acts to justify their mistakes and atrocious behaviours >>> > which resemble yours. You are not a beacon of hope to me, but rather >>> > that one of disaster. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > It is impossible that you could raise all your 20 children, so it means >>> > that you promote unstructured families whereby kids grow up with single >>> > parents. You promote and justify cheating. You promote for society to >>> > discredit the three pillars of fighting HIV, because you do not >>> Abstain, >>> > you do not get to Be Faithful, you do not Condomize. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > What are you good for? Absolutely nothing. You are shaming our country >>> > and making it seem as if we are unable to be led by principled leaders. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You are a health risk to your wives, you are a financial risk to the >>> > taxpayers who must pay for your opulence and you still pledge your >>> > support to communists. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I ask of you to step down as President, before you turn South Africa >>> > into a quagmire that resembles your sexual life and its animalistic >>> > behaviours. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Written by: Lukhona Mnguni >>> > >>> > COPE and COPESM member, >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >>> > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply >>> to >>> > this message. >>> > You can visit the group WEB SITE at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >>> > options, pages, files and membership. >>> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email >>> [email protected] >>> > . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't >>> have >>> > to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an >>> > e-mail to this address (repeat): >>> > [email protected] . >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Molaole Montsho --Journalist >>> 0822139513 >>> 086 6621634 >>> "News Matters" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> South Africa's premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm >>> >>> -- >>> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >>> Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply >>> to >>> this message. >>> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >>> options, pages, files and membership. >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email >>> [email protected] . >>> You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to >>> put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail >>> to >>> this address (repeat): [email protected] . >>> >>> -- >>> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >>> Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply >>> to this message. >>> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >>> options, pages, files and membership. >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email >>> [email protected] . You don't have to put >>> anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the >>> message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address >>> (repeat): [email protected] . >>> >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >> Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to >> this message. >> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >> options, pages, files and membership. >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected]. >> You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to >> put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to >> this address (repeat): [email protected] . >> > > > > -- > [email protected] > cell:0789228959 > tell:021-3618160 > fax:0866682445 > "Sometimes, if you wear suits for too long, it changes your ideology." - > Joe Slovo > > -- > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to > this message. > You can visit the group WEB SITE at > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery > options, pages, files and membership. > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected]. > You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to > put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to > this address (repeat): [email protected] . >
-- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] .
