Thobela!
There is a person complaining that she is getting my e-mails and I'm
sending this to YCLSA group>Can any one assist me before the lady
fight me.



On 2/11/10, Makhoana, Martha (TWP Rustenburg) <[email protected]> wrote:
> Please stop sending me this Emails because I don't know who you are.
>
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of howard matjomane
> Sent: 11 February 2010 01:11 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] [Communist University] Vanguard!
>
>
>
> Comrade,
>
>
> Cde may you assist in this regards,When i first artend ANC meetings it
> was in 1989  as we were young still in primary we grew up in meetings
> were Comrades keeps on say point of order ,Exigency and all this advance
> meeting procedures at some stages we couldnt s speak fearing that we may
> be out of line and other comrades  may laugh at us.
>
>
>
> .I then went teartiary and I was Active in SASCO and  the same advance
> meetings procedures at it highest levels  What suprised me was that
> before I went to tertiary I was member of the ANCYL and these never
> happen you will see comrades writing agenda pre the meetings be it
> general or Executive meetings with no problem.
>
>
>
> I went to jouin union and found the same meeting procedures.
>
>
>
> Recently at the meeting of  the ANCYL and YCL some comrades use this
> meeting procedures and I had a serious fight with them about the
> imposition of this meeting procedures into our structures to a level
> where upper structure intervene but unfortunately they were as well not
> clear about this.
>
>
>
> What i want to find out is wether the ANCYL/ANC and YCL has meeting
> procedures or any one from NGO's/Church or Trade union movements  can
> just imposed his procedures on us.Please assist in this regards.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Howard
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:50 AM, DomzaNet <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
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> Another first for the Communist University!
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> Comrades, you can now go to https://www.jetline.co.za/
> <https://www.jetline.co.za/> , log in with username communistuniversity
> and password also communistuniversity, fill in your details and choose a
> Jetline branch, and then order from a list of all the materials used in
> the eight Communist University Generic Courses. When you click "Proceed
> to Check-out" at the bottom, it creates an order with an order number,
> and sends it by e-mail to the Jetline branch you have selected. You go
> to the branch with the order number to pay and to collect your Communist
> University material! Viva, CU, Viva!
>
>
>
> ________________________________
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>
>  We now meet in the UJ Doornfontein Library. Next week's session will be
> as follows:
>
>
>
> Date: 17 February 2010 (Wednesday)
>
> Time: 17h00 sharp to 18h30 sharp
>
> (New) Venue: The Library, University of Johannesburg, 37 Nind Street,
> Doornfontein, Johannesburg (former Technikon Witwatersrand). Vehicle
> access is from the slip road to the left of the bridge on Siemert Road.
>
> Topic: "Worker Solidarity and Unions", by Brian Basgen and Andy Blunden
> (downloadable in MS-Word format
> <http://sadtu-media-releases.googlegroups.com/web/1106%2C+Worker+Solidar
> ity+and+Unions%2C+MIA%3B+Meetings%2C+Hannington.doc?gda=ac7_lHsAAADO5_tB
> HBXARP4AsX6lmYOoCWB07yPAs5XTPBKvv7XfVmqIYeWP4QVHu5dm91rjuvG8tEC0BPEnFlA6
> fT3p9guJY4azGvB-4QtnhowQyXEt2ho1ks4tjyO_q> ). See below for an
> introduction to this text and to extracts from "Mr Chairman" by Wal
> Hannington.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
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>
> Click to view the CU 2010 Draft Programme
> <http://groups.google.com/group/sacp-johannesburg-central-branch/web/joh
> annesburg-cu-2010-draft-programme>  and the Jhb Central Branch 2010
> Schedule
> <http://groups.google.com/group/sacp-johannesburg-central-branch/web/sac
> p-jhb-central-2010-branch-schedule> .
>
>
>
> Click to view full linked list of downloadable Generic Course files,
> with page count
> <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/cu-generic
> -courses-full-list-of-downloadable-textstexts> .
>
>
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> ________________________________
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> Vanguard!
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>
>
> In politics, the word "vanguard" means the professional force, human
> framework or "cadre", which can lead the mass movement of the people on
> a revolutionary path.
>
>
>
> The relationship of the revolutionary vanguard to the mass organisations
> of the people is similar to the relationship of a doctor to the people,
> or of accountants and lawyers to businesses, or of an architect or an
> engineer to builders and their clients. The vanguard is made up of
> professional revolutionaries.
>
>
>
> The revolutionary vanguard is a servant, and not a master. The vanguard
> party of the working class serves the working class, and does not boss
> it.
>
>
>
> The working-class vanguard party, which is the communist party, is not
> separate from the mass movement. It is intimately involved with the mass
> movement at all times and at all levels. To be a vanguard at all, it
> must study the workings of the mass movement.
>
>
>
> The vanguard party educates, organises and mobilises. As a vanguard, it
> must have expert knowledge how mass movements in general, and especially
> about how the primary mass organisations of the working class which are
> the trade unions, work.
>
>
>
> To deal with this crucial matter (how trade unions work) here is a text
> from the Marxists Internet Archive's Encyclopaedia of Marxism, written
> by Brian Basgen and Andy Blunden, two comrades who clearly have vast
> experience of what they are writing about.
>
>
>
> This text is empirical and experiential and there is nothing wrong with
> that, because experiential is exactly what trade unions and other mass
> organisations are. Trade unions arise out of the existing consciousness
> of workers as they are found under capitalism. In many ways workers
> emulate capitalist forms of organisation. Their initial purpose is to
> get a better money deal in exchange for their labour-power in the
> capitalist labour-market.
>
>
>
> Trade unions are in the first place reformist, not revolutionary. Nor
> can trade unions become revolutionary without the assistance of
> professional revolutionaries, organised separately as a communist party.
> Lenin dealt with this relationship in "What is to be Done?" (download
> linked below).
>
>
>
> Trade unionists who think that they can dispense with the assistance of
> a communist party are on a road to ruin.
>
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>
> Rules of Debate
>
>
>
> Crucial to the democracy of mass organisations are the Rules of Debate
> and Procedure of Meetings. These are a bit like language, or political
> education <http://domza.blogspot.com/2009/07/learning-is-communism.html>
> , or the Internet, in the sense of being communistic. They are not given
> as authority. They are not imposed by a "state". There is no
> institutional enforcer of these rules.
>
>
>
> For example, the South African Communist Party has no given Rules of
> Debate or Standing Orders. Unfortunately this does not prevent people
> from claiming "Points of Order"! The nature of the notional "rules" is
> such that they are only effective to the extent that they are understood
> in common by the members of any particular gathering.
>
>
>
> Wal Hannington [1896-1966, pictured] was well known as a communist
> leader of the unemployed workers' movement in Britain in the 1930s. Our
> summary of his 1950 booklet "Mr Chairman" is included with this item on
> Trade Unions because communists involved in trade unions need this
> knowledge.
>
>
>
> Hannington wrote: "The Chairman is there to guide the meeting, not to
> boss it." This is the most valuable message in his book. The Rules of
> Debate and the Procedures of Meetings are only justified to the extent
> that they liberate the people present. They become useless when they are
> felt as a burden or an obstruction.
>
>
>
> The point is not for the Chairperson to "keep order", or for individuals
> to be bullied down with "points of order". The Chairperson serves the
> meeting, and the meeting needs to know how to guide the Chairperson.
> Everything works best when everyone knows the generic Rules of Debate.
>
>
>
> Downloads:
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>
> Click here to download the text of Worker Solidarity and Unions, MIA,
> Meetings, Hannington
> <http://communist-university.googlegroups.com/web/1106%2C+Worker+Solidar
> ity+and+Unions%2C+MIA%3B+Meetings%2C+Hannington.doc?gda=jh_Z84AAAABRWT0J
> vHr826K2AV2Sy7ruWF_cvIR4bQcjY2Qjv0TmrWqIYeWP4QVHu5dm91rjuvG8tEC0BPEnFlA6
> fT3p9guJY4azGvB-4QtnhowQyXEt2ho1ks4tjyO_q>
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> Further (optional) reading:
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> 1106a, What is to be Done, Workers & Revolutionaries, Lenin
> <http://communist-university.googlegroups.com/web/1106a%2C+What+is+to+be
> +Done%2C+Workers+%26+Revolutionaries%2C+Lenin.doc?gda=W4PcrX4AAABRWT0JvH
> r826K2AV2Sy7ruWF_cvIR4bQcjY2Qjv0TmrWil66lirPyUX6aCxEZVGHxoKCpHpCsh1YQmlR
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> <http://domza.blogspot.com/2010/02/vanguard.html>  on 2/11/2010 11:50:00
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