One must first welcome the sincere statement by the president. It is a progressive addition to a seemingly disoriented debate.
Cde. Funky, your response below carries within it everything that is wrong with how we have conducted this discussion. As to whether or not the motives for this story to be broken are malicious or benevolent, is no less important than the allegations . In doing so, one must not loose sight of the merits attached to the allegation. Conversely, one cannot allow our leader to be charged, trialled and convicted in the media. However in responding one cannot position a revolutionary organisation as if it were a prison gang. Gangs are characterised by a moral code that seeks to defend "their own" at all costs and destroy all others. "Either you are with us or against us". Such a characterisation dangerously leads to the kind of thugarish analyses that concludes that communists and white capitalist media have "ganged" up against "them". It for this reason why we question who is this "us" cde president often refers. I assure you that the "us"in question when reference is made to Moraga or Gama does not include the rural and working poor. -----Original Message----- From: "KGALE GODFREY MAILA" <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:25:44 To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: ANC YL Media STATEMENT OF ANCYL GAUTENG PROVINCE ON THE VICIOUS ATTACK Vincent What does this mean "What is most worrying about the ANCYL GP leadership is that instead of responsing to the facts as they relat to the reports regarding the ANCYL president 's personal wealth status & how he has allegedly gained that" So today you call media reports "facts". what is the intention...Why? Now i fully agree with Cde Tom, just for what you said, i now strongly believe that the ANCYL President must be defended from lunatics, either from SACP, YCL Forum or anywhere. Provincial Secretary of Gauteng is therefore correct. Funky Maila >>> [email protected] 02/22/10 1:56 PM >>> What is most worrying about the ANCYL GP leadership is that instead of responsing to the facts as they relat to the reports regarding the ANCYL president 's personal wealth status & how he has allegedly gained that, the leadership decides to bunch below the belt anf shoots off the target. Firstly, it is not the duty of the media to audit the lifestyle of politicians, neither has COSATU proposed that lifestyle audits should be condected in the manner in which the media is running with it, but due to the beauty of our constitution on media freedoms, i guess the media is only acting as they wish in order to sell papers and we all know who sells the most. The defence of the president of the ANCYL against sensational & potentially damaging reporing is something that no one will differ with in principle within the circles of the ANCYL in the province, however, the degeneration of a "defence" what the provincial leadership is currently raising pointed to towards the alliance is very unfortunate and it sounds highly sychopphant in nature. But then we must comrades allow for a space to exist for debates and engagements. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Mzukisi Ronyuza <[email protected]> wrote: > > What is this thing of undermining the SACP leaders in this country? It > started with the highest office of the ANCYL and now Gauteng is towing the > line. Is this how our revolution ripens and "matures" comrades. These > comrades have ensured that they reduce debates in the ANC and the Alliance > into something that can't be understood. > > Thina South African Communist Party, and the African National Congress, is > our life, we are communists we do not want anyone to remind us that. If > others joined the struggle and political parties to fatten their CV's, it is > not the case with us. Media is used nowadays to score points. This person > lashes at that one, the next time he is praised and senior given position > somewhere because of his expletives against a comrade. Others are not even > political materials but have been given potilical responsibilities and are > causing mess and destroying what has been building for many decades. > > Why are comrades personalising debates? We are making our ANC a > self-destruct monster. Instead the opposition, DA, ID etc we spend time > fighting amongst ourselves. We are doing what the enemy has been wanting to > do this movement without success, destruction. > > *Comrades I implore you all that you work tirelessly to defend the ANCYL > from the blazing guns of political oblivion. The enemies of the SACP and > COSATU cannot fight within, are now using some misguided missiles. These are > our factory faults that should be recalled for repair. Only the ANCYL > Conference or the ANC can do that. * > ** > *SACP will be truly defended from any form attack that come its way, > whether from within or wthout, by all communists and those who believe in > the revolutionary alliance. * > ** > *HOW DO WE RELATE MALEMA'S PAPARAZZI EXPOSE TO THE SACP AND THE ANC? THIS > THING OF FOREVER SPEWING BILE TO THE SACP AND COSATU AFTER POLITICAL > CONSTIPATION SHOULD COME AN END.* > ** > ** > ** > ** > > > > > On 2/22/10, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> *STATEMENT OF ANCYL GAUTENG PROVINCE ON THE VICIOUS ATTACK OF OUR >> PRESIDENT JULIUS MALEMA* >> >> * >> >> 21 February 2010* >> >> The Gauteng ANCYL wishes to express its outmost disgust on the recent >> media reports that seek to portray President Julius Malema as a corrupt >> individual as coined by yellow communist and embraced by white >> capitalist controlled sensational media. We reject this assertion and >> its association to our President, who by the way is not a public servant or >> any thing of that sort. >> >> We wish to state on record that President Malema is employed by the >> African National Congress (ANC). When masses of our people called on him to >> serve the state and its institutions; he requested the leadership collective >> to allow him to finish his task as President of the ANCYL. Unlike those who >> jumped into the bandwagon to serve that state irrespective of task given by >> their respective organizations. We are fully aware that they did so to build >> friendship with the media and imperialist to attack the moral standing of >> our President. We thought this tendency of using state apparatus and >> media to attack fellow comrades was defeated in Polokwane, little did we >> know that it continues raising its ugly head post Polokwane. >> >> We wish to take this opportunity to remind South Africans at large that >> President Malema is a political activist who is a child of working-class and >> poor family. His work for the poor is well known to everyone; therefore any >> attempt by forces that connives with capital to discredit him has never and >> will not succeed. >> >> We are very clear as Gauteng ANCYL that we currently in the congress mood, >> hence many comrades are attempting to deflect our attention from both policy >> (Nationalization) and leadership articulation and preference debate >> throughout our structures in the province and national. With regard to >> nationalization, the debate is on how it should happen not whether it will >> happen. We are taking this policy debate to our structures and eventually >> the ANC NGC later this year. Structures of the ANCYL in Gauteng and we >> believe the rest of the country are singing Fikile Mbalula for ANC Secretary >> General in 2012. This call is not made by President Malema, rather all >> structures of the organization. Those who wish to silence and deter us from >> mobilization young people who have already swelled the ranks of the ANC and >> postured in favour of generational mix leadership debate should not attempt >> to defocus us from this important task of the organization. >> >> Those deployed in government and not delivering the mandate of the ANC >> should not equally seek to use the state machinery to persecute one of our >> own (President Malema). Through our President we will continue challenging >> those who are inefficient, lazy and corrupt. Our campaign to fix the >> rotten Public Enterprise, Mining Departments and the over dominance of >> minorities in the economic cluster of the cabinet are issues we will >> continue raising sharply. >> >> We support the lifestyle audit of those in government, trade unions in >> particular Zwelinzima Vavi and Mr. R500, 000 plastic bag. We call upon >> independent auditors to check transactions and accumulation during the same >> period. >> >> President Malema like any other human being know people and for the record >> he does not dish out tenders as alleged by yellow communist and the white >> capitalist media. Any attempt to associate a success of a black child to >> corruption is malicious and unwarranted. We refuse to accept all >> nonsensical weekend publications and we will work tirelessly to inform our >> structure soon on the overall plot and battles ahead. >> >> Forward to 2012 >> >> Issued by ANCYL Gauteng >> >> Contact Provincial Secretary >> Cde. Thabo Kupa >> 079 8111222 >> [email protected] >> * * * >> >> * >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. 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