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Cde Sipho, I do not think your intervention is not very helpful, because you do not call both comrades (Khutjo and Jeje) out of order, but you decide to single-out one because he happens to claim to be better educated [formally I mean]. Please comrades do not use this forum to fight for your personal own issues [we know local government elections are near …lol]; some of us take this forum serious, hence I would ask administrators of the forum to give both comrades yellow cards, and then if they commit a second offence is they ought to get a RED CARD. Regards On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:02 AM, sipho shandu <[email protected]> wrote: > Cadres, > > Let us not use the education debacle in this discussion. Mr Khutjo, yuo are > out of order chief! > > I dont believe that you can brag about having a degree chief. Having a > degree is like having a birth certificate now. > > Please. Here we dont use degrees to discuss but we use our common sense, > that which you have clearly have failed to use when answering my fellow > cadre. Instead you chose to call him uneducated and furthermore insulted the > forum members' inteligentia. > > My chief, please e-mail VC so that he may enroll in one streams in the > communist university! You really do need the education. > > To be a cadre of the movement means that you should be disciplined at all > times. You must be revulutionary and not to be reactionary. My chief, Let me > use to words to describe you: "Emptist" and "reactionist". > > Dont worry, there is still space for you to change. > > Let me hibernate.... > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:24 AM, sabelo gina <[email protected]>wrote: > >> "Leaders must think before they talk or write", this is still fresh to >> some of us! >> >> >> On 4/23/10, Khutjo Mphahlele <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I don’t see any necessity to responds to lunatic who just lambast as if >>> he is better in front of my face…And if you want to know why did I resign >>> from SAMWU as Secretary you must ask before you vomit. For your record I >>> have resign because I’m studying my honors in Internal Audit..and my books >>> needs my time as academic like claiming to be a leader who can’t even take >>> initiative about studying like you..I think ABET is still open for people >>> like you so that’s you will be able to engage in future with the people that >>> are not academically excluded like…actually you are not excluded, you chose >>> to run away even from Night School..Do you have Metric Chief? Maybe….You >>> talking rubbish .. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jeje Yaqub >>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 22, 2010 5:38 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: ANC YL Media ANCYL MEDIA >>> STATEMENT: ANCYL IS APPALLED BY THE LIES SPREAD BY THE STAR NEWSPAPER >>> >>> >>> >>> Khutjo, >>> >>> >>> >>> Calling people cdes and referring to E-tv as a messenger of DA will >>> not ease your conscience but add to your miseries. I've always been >>> wondering what informs your consistent defence of Junju-boy even though its >>> clear the so-called revolutionary is messing up. Thanks to the recent >>> developments of municipal workers strike organised by SAMWU, your true >>> colours are now exposed. I wonder how do you sleep at night after referring >>> to someone who participated in a strike as a cde, when you on the otherhand >>> failed to participate progressively. You in fact not only failed to >>> participate progressively but acted like an imperialist agent and a union >>> basher. You participated on the contrary and attempted to weaken and defeat >>> the might of the working class but failed dismally. >>> >>> >>> >>> As a former local secretary of SAMWU, you chose to resign voluntarily >>> from the union. You decided to join the ranks of Mamasela the former >>> apartheid spy, who by the way hails from the same village as you. You >>> decided to please the employer at the expense of the organised workers who >>> happens to be your cdes. You let workers fight for your needs and interests >>> whilst on the otherhand serving the employer by enjoying maximised >>> exploitation. You served the employer's purpose with distinctions, thanks to >>> you, workers could not get what they solemly bargained for. You behaved like >>> a bat (impuku ntaka), half mouse and half bird. >>> >>> >>> >>> Since the beginning of the recent SAMWU strike, you did nothing but to >>> firstly report for duty as if workers are not embarking on a mass protest. >>> Secondly, you chose to instigate workers not to take part in the mass >>> protest as if you were part of management. And lastly you did nothing but to >>> keep updating those whom you managed to mobilise against a revolutionary >>> call by a COSATU affiliate, an ANC ally called SAMWU. >>> >>> >>> >>> So chief, if you don't mind, can you please clarify me as to what >>> politics are you playing and by the way this forum belongs to the vanguards >>> of the working class. If you were never told before, I would therefore like >>> to take an opportunity to tell you that, it's people like you who delayed >>> our path to democracy so don't bother to delay our path to socialism. >>> >>> >>> >>> Find yourself you none member of the ANC, cold blooded reactionary. >>> >>> >>> >>> Socialismo o muerte, >>> >>> >>> >>> Avant garde!!! >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* Khutjo Mphahlele <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Wed, April 21, 2010 4:38:23 PM >>> *Subject:* RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: ANC YL Media ANCYL MEDIA >>> STATEMENT: ANCYL IS APPALLED BY THE LIES SPREAD BY THE STAR NEWSPAPER >>> >>> >>> Com you are correct because as much as I highlighted previously about >>> etv as the Messenger of DA. I always monitor the way they present the news…I >>> don’t like ETV but due to info that Is not reliable I end up checking it… >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Siyabonga Charles zama >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:14 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* FW: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: ANC YL Media ANCYL MEDIA >>> STATEMENT: ANCYL IS APPALLED BY THE LIES SPREAD BY THE STAR NEWSPAPER >>> >>> >>> >>> Comrades >>> >>> >>> >>> As the ANC we need to becareful of the Media, The tour to Venezuala was >>> made public while the President was in Zimbabwe. The media is by all means >>> trying to relate the trip with the resolution by the ANC to call Cde Julius >>> to the DC. Cdes if we are not careful we’ ve got a lot loose. Those who have >>> watch the news on etv and SABC yesterday (20th of April 2010) at 19h00 >>> and 19h30 respectively should have seen the kind of reporting the e tv is >>> doing, where they showed a clip of Cde Thandi Modise, it was distorted as >>> if comrade Thandi differs with the ANC and the ETV didn’t show Comrade >>> Jackson Mthembu who was sitting in the far left of the table, the clip >>> showed Cde Thandi sitting among the leaders of the YL. Until the SABC 19H30 >>> news where a longer clip was played one could get and one could fully >>> understand what was said in the meeting. Without attacking the media we need >>> to engage them on the way they report, they can’t continue feeding the >>> public distorted information. We need to engage specifically SANEF because >>> its their members who allow these things to happen. The media should stop >>> abusing their freedom of expression. >>> >>> >>> >>> Siyabonga Zama >>> >>> >>> >>> Lower South Coast Region >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Vusi Nzapheza >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:35 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: ANC YL Media ANCYL MEDIA STATEMENT: >>> ANCYL IS APPALLED BY THE LIES SPREAD BY THE STAR NEWSPAPER >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: *Magdalene Moonsamy* >>> >>> Date: Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:30 AM >>> Subject: ANC YL Media ANCYL MEDIA STATEMENT: ANCYL IS APPALLED BY THE >>> LIES SPREAD BY THE STAR NEWSPAPER >>> To: [email protected], [email protected] >>> >>> ANCYL MEDIA STATEMENT >>> >>> >>> >>> THE ANCYL IS APPALLED BY THE LIES SPREAD BY THE STAR NEWSPAPERS >>> >>> >>> >>> The ANCYL is appalled by the lies spread by the Star Newspapers on the >>> 21st April 2010. It is with absolute disgust that the headline reads of a >>> "surprise trip" by the ANCYL to Venezuela. >>> >>> >>> >>> The ANCYL has planned study tours as part of its process to advance the >>> Nationalisation of Mines, this includes the study tour to Venezuela. Such >>> discussions and plans have been made public for comment and engagement with >>> the ANCYL, since its Legotla that took place in January 2010. >>> >>> >>> >>> The study tour to Venezuela forms part of a series of study tours. >>> A delegation has recently returned from Zimbabwe were a series of programmes >>> aimed at gaining an intimate understanding of Nationalisation of the various >>> sectors of the economy were undertaken. >>> >>> >>> >>> The ANCYL is disgusted that foreign owned newspapers continue to >>> misrepresent the efforts made by the ANCYL in advancing the interests of the >>> of the developmental struggle. >>> >>> >>> >>> The ANCYL calls for such unethical journalism and lies to stop. >>> >>> >>> >>> ISSUED BY THE ANCYL >>> >>> >>> >>> CONTACT >>> >>> >>> >>> MAGDALENE MOONSAMY >>> >>> 073 2688 269 >>> >>> -- >>> Magdalene Moonsamy >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> News is something someone, somewhere doesn’t want to read. 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