So merely unfortunate that the debate from a tabloid posting went to such a derailed argument by my fellow commies.
As legitimate may be the facts that comrade Floyd will be a father, as a progressive member of the YCL and the ANCYL regardless of my personal or political views against comrade Floyd let me be the first to congratulate him for his father to be moments, with hope that he will be an example to his daughter. However comrades I would like to further caution all of us here, this is not a factional platform to do all endeavor to discredit each other non factually. lets be reminded we are a Marxist-Leninist organisation ours should be scientific and non-patriarchy, by such let us not consciously insult the mother of Flody's kid, by dragging her in this pointless debate. I would urge comrades to find other relative discussions to take forth rather than Floyd's personal life especially if it involves an innocent unborn kid and a mother who has not in any chance participated in our squabbles with comrade Floyd as a politician, lets not comrade Floyd remains a leader of the ANCYL regardless of how legitimate or illegitimate was he elected, however I would also request comrade Floyd to do such as he would want to be done to him, much as Ndzimande is still the GS of the SACP. I remain. Sithembewena "CHE" Tsembeyi Hasta la victoria siempre Socialismo o' muerte On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:22 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree,with u.chief.however leadership has no constitutional right or > organizational right to insult ppl regardless of how right u think u r > right.Leadership must desist from dealing with individuals and deal with > issues. > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:03:48 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ‘I can’t wait’ Shivambu > set to be a dad > > It is incorrect to disrespect leadership as an outcome of congress. I > raised it before and will raise it again because membership of this forum is > not stagnant. The congress is the highest decision making body that make > resolutions including on leadership. > > To single out one NEC member and claim he did not have a branch or > membership at the time of his election suggests that the delegates in the > congress were insanely myopic and failed to ensure the safeguarding of the > constitution. In fact it insults the legitimacy of Mangaung/Nasrec congress. > > I appeal to comrades to desist from insulting the ANCYL and other > organizations using an individual as an entry point. Disrespect for congress > resolutions is disrespect for the organization. Floyd remains a directly > elected NEC member with powers vested on the leadership by the constitution > and congress. He should be respected for the position he hold if you fail to > respect him as a human being. > > Just principle matters, no cult nor undying love/hatred for an individual > comrade. I love the organization more than anyone who led or lead it at any > given epoch.... > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:29:57 > To: Mshengu Tshabalala<[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ‘I can’t wait’ Shivambu > set to be a dad > > Floyd it suite him good,he always insult ppl everytime,he issue > statements.This cannot be allowed if Floyd insult others its fine,but its > his term of receiving insults.let alone that floyd was parachutted by ycl to > NEC YL without any branch activity. > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lyndoh Mkwanazi <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:04:10 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Cc: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ‘I can’t wait’ Shivambu > set to be a dad > > it is with utter disgust dat ppl would share such, when students across the > landscape are financial problems at institutions of higher learning and > unemployment is at its peak, yet we have 'refined' individuals posting such. > > I challenge the person 2state the thinking behind this, in light of this > forum. > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:36 EEST Tshegofatso Mogaladi wrote: > > >Pathetic Posting, Nonsensical Tabloid; very alien in traditions > >Bolsheviks. > >Thats Nonsense chief... > > > >Cde George > >Pretoria > > > > > > > >On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Matela Mthwalo <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> Cde Mothapo, > >> > >> I don't see why Cde Floyd personal life has got to do with what we > discuss > >> in this forum. If you have forgotten in the forum we discuss issues that > >> affect our lives as citizens of the world, which include politics and > >> economic matters. > >> > >> As to why you chose to post this tabliod story on this forum only you > and > >> your ancestors know. Even sushi story of Julius Malema is far better > than > >> what you just posted, unless of you want to expand on reasons as to why > you > >> posted.... > >> > >> Matela > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:42 PM, matankana mothapo < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> ‘I can’t wait’ Shivambu set to be a dad > >>> > >>> Ngwako Malatji > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 27 March 2011 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> [image: http://www.sundayworld.co.za/thumbnail.aspx?type=mm&id=232631] > >>> Dad on hold: Floyd Shivambu > >>> > >>> [image: http://www.sundayworld.co.za/thumbnail.aspx?type=mm&id=232630] > >>> Mom to be: Andile Masuku > >>> > >>> While being labelled as a “nobody” by the Congress of South African > >>> Students (Cosas) this week, ANC Youth League spokesperson Floyd > Shivambu is > >>> about to be a father. > >>> > >>> The war of words between Shivambu and Cosas president Bongani Mani > erupted > >>> after Mani announced that Cosas would not back Julius Malema for a > second > >>> term as Youth League president. > >>> > >>> ‘Floyd is a nobody, he has never been an activist in the struggle, or > in > >>> Cosas for that matter. We first saw him in Mangaung (in the Free State, > >>> where Malema was elected in 2008),’ Mani said. > >>> > >>> And on the personal front, Shivambu’s heavily pregnant Morning Live > >>> weather presenter lover Andile Masuku wanted to keep the lid on the > identity > >>> of the father of her unborn baby. > >>> > >>> But today Sunday World can reveal that the Youth League spin doctor is > the > >>> father of her unborn child. > >>> > >>> We can also reveal that the two lovebirds are living together in > Rivonia, > >>> north of Jozi. > >>> > >>> Our sources say Shivambu did not want to be known as the sire because > he > >>> was afraid nosy newshounds would turn his private life into tabloid > fodder. > >>> > >>> “He is a politician and doesn’t want his private life to hog tabloid > >>> headlines. It’s a pity that the secret is out in the public domain,” > says > >>> one source. > >>> > >>> Another source says Shivambu and Masuku bumped into each other at the > >>> wedding of Mpumalanga tycoon Robert Gumede last year. > >>> > >>> “She was there to interview guests. He was one of the guests she > >>> interviewed and she stole his heart. > >>> > >>> “I must say it was love at first sight as Andile was completely blown > >>> away,” says the source. > >>> > >>> Shivambu confirms that Masuku, who has a sprog from a previous > dalliance, > >>> is carrying his bambino. > >>> > >>> “It’s a different feeling and I can’t wait to be a father, ”he says. > >>> > >>> The tough-talking politician says her gynaecologist told them to expect > a > >>> girl after Masuku had an ultrasound scan. > >>> > >>> Masuku, who is due to give birth in the second week of April, confirms > >>> that Shivambu is the father of her unborn baby girl. > >>> > >>> “Yes, Floyd and I are expecting a little girl. > >>> > >>> “He is a great person,” she adds. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You are subscribed. 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