The ANCYL is alliance with YCL,SASCO,COSAS and other progressive youth formations only,comrade we must not bother for what the YL said much in political report of JM,except to focus on youth affair and advance the interest of young ppl,within and outside...if YL has an opinion of function of the working class and what is vanguard about it,they must find youth formations in alliance to them,SACP and COSATU are in alliance with the ANC,and they know and better understand each other organisationally. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:11:30 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] SACP , Cosatu slam ANCYL workingclassleadershipplans I believe that it can, provided they expressly state that young workers should be part of labour formations and unions Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:09:56 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] SACP , Cosatu slam ANCYL workingclassleadership plans Thank you Skhumbuzo, Am I correct in saying that not all youths that work are active in the struggle of the working class. Will this stance of the ANCYL not strength the struggle by re-energising the youth into being active no more than ever when it comes to their work places? Or am I missing it completely. Regards, Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Sikhumbuzo Thomo <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:35:36 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] SACP , Cosatu slam ANCYL working classleadership plans Hi @ Lwandiso; Please look at it this way in the struggle there is a class and strata components. Ordinarily the youth form part of a strata and a constituent of the ANCYL this however does not rule out the fact that there are young working youth which does not equate the ANCYL therefore to be the bearer let alone a vanguard of the the working class (which is the main objective of the Party). It is a complete different ball game my comrade. ST On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Ntokozo Lwandle < [email protected]> wrote: > Cdes, I can see, we are now beginning to have a youth league that wants to > be > everything and deal with everything all at once. believe omce ANCYL begin > to > tackle everything, the focus on youth issues will dissapear and the chances > are > very litle will be achived by this new strategy. Another danger is ANCYL > loosing identity. > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 06:37:09 +0000 [email protected] wrote > > > Adv Matoti my lord, let me assist u by saying, in fact what is the > charactor > > of the ANC YL equally what is the working class? The ANC YL can't lead > the > > working struggle, in particular by someone who TALK LEFT & WALK RIGHT... > I > > quote "Mbeki he is a bad man in South Africa Sept 2008 in Peteritzburg JZ > > case" and in Polokwana 2011 PGC l quote "Mbeki is a good man we must be > no > > jealous abt him, he is a product of the Movement" we can't allow some > > individuals to divert the working class struggle... Amen > > Ndura Gceba 0829733496 > > "lf u are tremble with indegination at every injustice then u are a > comrade > > of mine" > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lwandiso Matoti <[email protected]> > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:02:57 > > To: <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] SACP, Cosatu slam ANCYL working class > > leadership plans > > > > Receive my revolutionary greetings, > > > > Please excuse my ignorance but does the working class exclude the youth? > > > > Regards, > > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Lebogang Tutubalang > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > comrades the statement of ancyl president of saying they will take over > > > unions and lead workers in their work station is political > recklessness. it > > > is politically correct for the president to understand the character of > the > > > ancyl, because if t remember very correctly, the constitution of the > ancyl > > > spells very clearly that, the structure is the vanguard for the > interest of > > > the youth in this country . it cant be correct that this statement > should > > > be > > > left unchallenged because it had the capacity mislead and dish out the > > > revolution in which some of workers defended with their own life. > comrades > > > must be taught alliance traditions because there is a platform were > this > > > issues can be debated. > > > > > > i hold the view that, the president should be hauled before the > > > disciplinary > > > committee for this reckless statements he continues to utter. it is > known > > > in > > > the structures of the movement that, comrade president his disciplinary > > > action is long over due. militancy of the ancyl should no be viewed ill > > > discipline because two concepts are not the same. the structure has > mammoth > > > task to engage in this country which included national Conference > > > resolution which need to be implemented radically to advance agenda of > the > > > young people, not of the working class. amandla > > > SACP, Cosatu slam ANCYL working class leadership plans > > > > > > > > > Stephen Grootes, EyeWitness News, Johannesburg, 20 June 2011 > > > > > > Both the Congress of South African Trade Unions (Cosatu) and the South > > > African Communist Party (SACP) have slammed the ANC Youth League's > plans to > > > take over their role in leading the working class. > > > > > > Speaking at the Youth Wings conference in Midrand, Julius Malema said > they > > > will target the workplace. He said workers were failed by the very > > > organisations that were supposed to represent them. > > > > > > However, the SACP said the league cannot lead the working class as it > is > > > not > > > a workers' organisation. It said the league can only talk about land > reform > > > because of the programmes the party started in 2005. > > > > > > Cosatu's Patrick Craven said they reject claims that they are failing > in > > > their mandate. > > > > > > “We are by far the biggest, most powerful and most influential > organisation > > > representing the workers and I’m quite confident that we will continue > to > > > play that role,” he added. > > > > > > Cosatu leaders will discuss Malema's claims next week. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: http://www.eyewitnessnews.co.za/Story.aspx?Id=68413 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > You are subscribed. 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