Cdes some of us we will engage this matter in Party constitutional platforms. But the most fundamental question is whether is SACP should vanguard or rearguard Party. In our 2012 National Congress part of the report will be from the Politburo Deployment and Accountability Committee, which will indicate the lesson drawn and challenges to implement the MTV.
---------- Sent via Nokia Email ------Original message------ From: Malekate Maditsi <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 2, 2011 11:49:54 AM GMT+0200 Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Today's communist party is not a class act Cdes Lets not be petty and lose focus, we appreciate enlightenment by Cde VC about who is Martin Jansen. We are not going to learn only from fellow communists but also from our opponents, that is the only way to become a genuine revolutionary. I want us to purify this debate by leaving name calling aside & entertain what Martins has raised. There are questions that need to be answered so that clarity can be provided & if Martins is wrong it be painted as such with facts & principles. Firstly, Martin said that can the SACP claim to be a vanguard party of the working class, a party that is interested in power to advance the interests of the workers and the poor? Is its privileged historical position at the helm of the working class & its largest formation,Casatu, togethr with its theory of NDR, the political basis of working class setbacks over the past 20 years? Has the SACP failed to put the class struggle back on the agenda? the class character of the ANC government and the nature of the state in SA. Whose class interests the ANC & its Govt represent? ANC has used political power & leverage over the state & public resources to elevate a small section of black petty bourgeosie to the ranks of the big capitalists. That is how white capital bought its political security. The interests of the new black bourgeisie are tied up with those of white monopoly capital & the capitalist state, He claims! The SACP leaders in Govt have often been the most vociferous defenders of neoliberal policies. The latest example is deputy transport minister Jeremy Cronin defending the Gauteng toll-road system. ''As Lenin pointed out nearly a century ago, the bourgeois state transforms those who work within it, not the other way round. We need to "smash the bourgeois state", he said, and replace it with organs of working-class power. Ironically, the SACP's "Marxist-Leninist" leaders are now fighting a battle to their left to maintain their privileged positions in the ANC government''. ''So Carrim, Martins, Nzimande, Cronin, Gwede Mantashe and the entire SACP membership need to ask more serious questions about their party. Average working-class living standards are worse now than under apartheid, with nearly 70% of black people living in poverty, nearly 50% unemployed, and South Africa is the most unequal society in the world''. ''The SACP produces socialist rhetoric but does little to distinguish it from the bourgeois ANC. For all Nzimande's criticism of corruption and tenderpreneurship, what have he and the SACP done to challenge it? In fact, the SACP leadership supports Jacob Zuma for another presidential term, a man who epitomises the plundering of state resources''. So Cdes can we honestly engage the claims of Martin together with socio-economic facts he raised about SA conditions post 1994. We owe it to ourselves to robustly interrogate these issues in a bid to sharpen ourselves to become genuine agents of revolution as envisaged & carried by Marx, Lenin, Hani, Cde VC as a trusted maxist-leninist scholar perhaps you need to lead & provide with clarity, because whether Martin is communist or not some of his submissions make sense to us. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Alex M. Mashilo <[email protected]> wrote: > * * > > *Cheap politicking?***** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Malekate Maditsi > *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:26 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Today's communist party is not a class > act**** > > ** ** > > After reading this article any Communist must stop and run an introspection > of what kind of SACP have we become, wakeup workers and wakeup the poor > there could biggest conspiracy to sell our interests and country to the > highest bidder. If it is about us, can that be evident, can the rhetoric > stop and begin a genuine course to a socialist future.**** > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Moses Moyo <[email protected]> wrote:**** > > Today's communist party is not a class act**** > > ** ** > > *MARTIN JANSEN: THE LEFT* Aug 26 2011 11:27**** > > ** ** > > [image: mg_logo.gif]**** > > ** ** > > In response to Rapule Tabane's "The strident tune of a one-man > band<http://www.mg.co.za/article/2011-08-01-the-strident-tune-of-a-oneman-band>" > (August 1), Yunus Carrim and Ben Martins correctly argue that it is > simplistic to reduce the South African Communist Party (SACP) to its general > secretary's apparent authoritarian behaviour and intolerance to having his > "personal whim" questioned. > > Blade Nzimande represents the politics and character of his party. We need > to look deeper to explain the majority of the SACP leadership's intolerance > of dissenting views. Carrim and Martins sing the SACP's former glories > instead of taking a serious look at the party today. The central question > is: Can the SACP claim to be a vanguard party of the working class, a party > that, as Nzimande said in this paper in July, "is a political party … > interested in power to advance the interests of the workers and the poor". > > My view is that the SACP's political path contributes to the malaise of > class struggle in South Africa. Its privileged historical position at the > helm of the working class and its largest formation, Cosatu, together with > its theory of national democratic revolution (NDR), is the political basis > of working-class setbacks over the past 20 years. > > The SACP has not overcome the first hurdle in putting the class struggle > back on the agenda -- the class character of the ANC government and the > nature of the state in South Africa. This is evaded; the ANC and SACP enjoy > a symbiotic relationship. Any serious review by a Marxist-Leninist > organisation must pose the question of whose class interests the ANC and its > government represent. > > An honest review would show that the ANC has historically represented the > interests of the black petty bourgeoisie. It has used political power and > leverage over the state and public resources to elevate a small section of > this "class" to the ranks of the big capitalists. The monopolistic nature of > the South African economy means that this could only happen by a conscious, > rapid reallocation of capital from the white bourgeoisie to a few > strategically located blacks. Thus white capital bought its political > security. The interests of the new black bourgeoisie are tied up with those > of white monopoly capital and the capitalist state. > > The SACP has promoted the notion that a patriotic black capitalist class > ensures progressive investment in the national economy, driving job creation > and pro-poor development. But why would this "patriotic" bourgeoisie invest > its capital any differently from their unpatriotic white counterparts? > Irrespective of skin colour, capitalists' first loyalty is to profit. Also, > black capitalists must catch up in terms of accumulation so are less > inclined to make "patriotic" investments, and less still to uplift the > working class on whose back profits are predicated. > > Despite the ANC's electoral support from the black working class, it is > essentially a capitalist party. Privatisation, cuts in social spending, > HIV/Aids policy, commercialisation and user-pays public services are among > many policies that go against the interests of the working class. > > The SACP leadership fails to recognise this so it continues to sell the > false idea that the ANC-led state can be reformed to favour working-class > interests. But the capitalist state under the ANC has not become more biased > towards workers. In fact, SACP leaders in government have often been the > most vociferous defenders of neoliberal policies. The latest example is > deputy transport minister Jeremy Cronin defending the Gauteng toll-road > system. > > As Lenin pointed out nearly a century ago, the bourgeois state transforms > those who work within it, not the other way round. We need to "smash the > bourgeois state", he said, and replace it with organs of working-class > power. Ironically, the SACP's "Marxist-Leninist" leaders are now fighting a > battle to their left to maintain their privileged positions in the ANC > government. **** > > ** ** > > So Carrim, Martins, Nzimande, Cronin, Gwede Mantashe and the entire SACP > membership need to ask more serious questions about their party. Average > working-class living standards are worse now than under apartheid, with > nearly 70% of black people living in poverty, nearly 50% unemployed, and > South Africa is the most unequal society in the world. > > The SACP produces socialist rhetoric but does little to distinguish it from > the bourgeois ANC. For all Nzimande's criticism of corruption and > tenderpreneurship, what have he and the SACP done to challenge it? In fact, > the SACP leadership supports Jacob Zuma for another presidential term, a man > who epitomises the plundering of state resources. > > We can only conclude that the SACP is not "a political party … interested > in power to advance the interests of the workers and the poor", but rather > provides a radical facade for the ANC's neoliberal project. It too nurtures > the middle-class material aspirations of many of its leaders and members, > aspirations met by state and trade-union positions. Its position on the NDR > ensures this. Those who take a more radical view or challenge the SACP > leadership are marginalised, victimised and even expelled. > > So, Rapule, there is much more at stake than just bad-man Blade. > > *Martin Jansen is the director of Workers World Media Productions. He > writes in his personal capacity.***** > > -- > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to > this message. > You can visit the group WEB SITE at > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery > options, pages, files and membership. > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] You > don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to > put anything in the message part. 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