Cadres Can sum1 clarify why the march has been reduced to an individual? Are we saying that young people were naïve in going out there to demand solutions to their current socio-economic conditions?
If really Julius had perverse, opportunistic intentions, where are the "genuine leaders" to lead young people out of poverty and economic disparities. .? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Tshegofatso Mogaladi <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:02:36 To: <[email protected]>; YCL SA Discussion Blog<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: [CU] History was made this week by the long walk to economic freedom march How interesting that you want us to believe that you made history by demanding to live like whites whilst you do not even live like your own Julius? It is a bizzaar expectation to can want to live like whites overnight, their wealth came as a result of an almost century long of enslaving blacks to maximise their profits, consistent exploitation of opportunities based on race during the apartheid regime, looting and all other sorts of white collar crimes. The first step on part of the well mobilised youth should be a desire to live like Juju himself who in just about the past six years was just like me and you but is suddenly amongst the country's millioners, courtesy of tendeprenuring. I wonder what is your opinion about the fact that our Julius after ''historic march'' jetted off to Mauritius for a R10000000.00 worth of a wedding ceremony. And by the way that is not a white man's wedding... Cde George Pretoria On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:04 PM, setlakalane molepo <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well Comrade Somcuba it is the truth, what I write is always my true view > and thoughts and I guess that I have a lot of discredits if I want to embark > on a political career because I am too honest. I do not change my true > feelings for fear of being victimized.My views and thoughts might be right > or wrong but I will always express them no matter who the audience is. I > also joined this group because I wanted to engage and learn from communists. > I thank you. > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Somcuba Samuel (GAU) <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> I thank you comrade setlakalane molepo that you have realised beyond >> reasonable doubt that YCL educates cadres “tried desperately to look for >> you, as at that stage I had the desire to be politically schooled and I know >> you are good at that but I ended up throwing in a towel and my political >> home was only the ANCYL”. >> >> >> >> Thanks for telling the truth, it is revolutionary to tell the truth. At >> least you know some. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Samuel Somcuba >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of setlakalane >> molepo >> Sent: 28 October 2011 02:48 PM >> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [CU] History was made this week by the long walk to economic >> freedom march >> >> >> >> Julius 's constituency is not in summits and please do us a favour YCL, >> accept that you are not a proactive organization, you cannot ever take >> initiative and engage the masses on your own, you are best a wait and >> support organization. This time you missed a opportunity to brag about how >> successful your joint much with the ANCYL was, because you miscalculated the >> level of support of President Julius Malema and their intelligence, you >> thought the march was going to be an embarrassment. Stop this academic >> meetings and events of yours and be visible to the masses not only be >> vissible at ANC rallies or COSATU rallies. Myself at some stage I wanted to >> join the YCL , I phoned the number i got from the website as your contact >> details and I was told that you had moved offices and the number belongs to >> some affiliate of COSATU, I tried desperately to look for you, as at that >> stage I had the desire to be politically schooled and I know you are good at >> that but I ended up throwing in a towel and my political home was only the >> ANCYL. >> >> >> >> Therefore indeed be visible create branches and stop being a group of >> scholars. >> >> >> >> >> >> Yours, >> >> >> >> >> >> Setlakalane >> >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Siyabonga Gasa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Julius is a hypocrite he has just demonstrated how to abuse activism >> and misuse power and status of being a leader of an Anc structure..he >> has regretably missed an opportunity of engaging YCL & civil society >> in a Youth summit..instead he marched for fear of being exposed as a >> hollow motormouth..the man leaves in a lap of luxury..his objectives >> of showing off is over.. now he'll romp to a very exclusive Zar bar to >> triumphantly reflect on the mob he had mobilised. The destitute are >> back to their substandard dwellings. >> >> What are success indicators for the march? Surely not the ppl who >> boosted his bloated ego! Let's wait and see. >> >> >> What >> >> On 10/28/11, kodlana <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Cde Setlakalane, >> > >> > Ur support for the YL President is good thing and ur not alone. Some in >> > this >> > forum do support him as well, but they are afraid of voicing that, >> > because >> > of the fear of ridiculed. >> >> > Sent from my BlackBerryŽ wireless device >> >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: setlakalane molepo <[email protected]> >> > Sender: [email protected] >> > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:52:00 >> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Reply-To: [email protected] >> >> > Subject: Re: [CU] History was made this week by the long walk to >> > economic >> > freedom march >> > >> > Dear Comrades >> > >> > I must say I am not surprised at all with the responses I am getting. >> > You >> > must be thinking this is another uninformed, member of a member (a term >> > I borrowed from some of comments in this group) who is not au fait with >> > real ideological policies, principles of the mass democratic movement >> > and I >> > concede and confirm your preconceived judgments and so do many of his >> > followers. My appreciation of Julius Malema is that he goes where others >> > dare to go, he is fearless and that's why we love him. I don't care >> > about >> > his wealth and how he got, he is not the only tenderpreneur or >> > politician >> > cum millionaire/billionaire, the difference is that his wealth is >> > exposed >> > because he must be silenced for telling the truth about the plight of >> > the >> > poor Africans/ for his fall out with JZ. At least even when he is living >> > a millionaire life he does not forget to go and listen to his >> > constituency. >> > >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Setlakalane >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:25 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> ** Thanks for the update cadre. >> >> >> >> >> So I gather as the masses start their long journey home in buses and >> >> taxis >> >> (most with no air-condition) back to their normal lives in squatter >> >> camps, >> >> townships and villages, while the leadership is cruising in their >> >> chauffeur-driven Range Rovers to their multi-million rands mansions. >> >> Perhaps >> >> they will via Tzar and pop bottles of Blanc, Dom Perignon and god knows >> >> what >> >> other Champaign to celebrate a successful march. >> >> >> >> The marchers from far flung areas such 'No body', 'My darling' and >> >> 'Nquza' >> >> would, at least, celebrate the fact that had a nice long trip free of >> >> charge >> >> and t-shirts paid for by unknown business people. But as soon as >> >> tomorrow >> >> they will be facing the reality they faced on Wednesday. Indeed it is >> >> true >> >> that Julius will be mentioned in the history books but whether in the >> >> same >> >> breath with icons such OR Tambo, Lembede et al is another question. >> >> History >> >> will be the judge. >> >> >> >> Comradely, >> >> Mandla >> >> >> >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: * setlakalane molepo <[email protected]> >> >> *Sender: * [email protected] >> >> *Date: *Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:01:47 +0200 >> >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >> >> *Subject: *[CU] History was made this week by the long walk to economic >> >> >> freedom march >> >> >> >> Comrades I am proud to say I was part of history, I took part in the >> >> beginning of the struggle for economic freedom as my president said it >> >> it >> >> does not end today at the Union buildings, it is the beginning, we must >> >> make >> >> everyone buy in the the struggle for economic freedom, at parties or >> >> funerals or weddings everywhere we must end our meetings with the call >> >> for >> >> the economic freedom. 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