There is nothing factual or political in this post. This kind of post is no different to junk mail.
This is what people mean when they are complaining of a deterioration in the quality of the forum. Please do better, or else go to Twitter or Facebook. VC On 31 October 2011 21:21, Setja Diphoko <[email protected]> wrote: > People nowadays wants to be relevant to their masters instead of the > masses they represent. If you say something your master doesn't like or his > benefactors you get suspended or don't get votes . I think we have slipped > into the politics of conferences and deployments, stuff the masses! They > are only good when we launch VD branches or campaign for elections. > > Communist Regards > > > Lesetja Diphoko > "Sent via my > BlackBerry" > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:54:31 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: [CU] History was made this week by the > long walk to economic freedom march > > Cadres > > Can sum1 clarify why the march has been reduced to an individual? Are we > saying that young people were naïve in going out there to demand solutions > to their current socio-economic conditions? > > If really Julius had perverse, opportunistic intentions, where are the > "genuine leaders" to lead young people out of poverty and economic > disparities. .? > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tshegofatso Mogaladi <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:02:36 > To: <[email protected]>; YCL SA Discussion Blog< > [email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: [CU] History was made this week by the long > walk to economic freedom march > > How interesting that you want us to believe that you made history by > demanding to live like whites whilst you do not even live like your > own Julius? It is a bizzaar expectation to can want to live like > whites overnight, their wealth came as a result of an almost century > long of enslaving blacks to maximise their profits, consistent > exploitation of opportunities based on race during the apartheid > regime, looting and all other sorts of white collar crimes. The first > step on part of the well mobilised youth should be a desire to live > like Juju himself who in just about the past six years was just like > me and you but is suddenly amongst the country's millioners, courtesy > of tendeprenuring. I wonder what is your opinion about the fact that > our Julius after ''historic march'' jetted off to Mauritius for a > R10000000.00 worth of a wedding ceremony. And by the way that is not a > white man's wedding... > > Cde George > Pretoria > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:04 PM, setlakalane molepo > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Well Comrade Somcuba it is the truth, what I write is always my true view > > and thoughts and I guess that I have a lot of discredits if I want to > embark > > on a political career because I am too honest. I do not change my true > > feelings for fear of being victimized.My views and thoughts might be > right > > or wrong but I will always express them no matter who the audience is. I > > also joined this group because I wanted to engage and learn from > communists. > > I thank you. > > > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Somcuba Samuel (GAU) < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> I thank you comrade setlakalane molepo that you have realised beyond > >> reasonable doubt that YCL educates cadres “tried desperately to look for > >> you, as at that stage I had the desire to be politically schooled and I > know > >> you are good at that but I ended up throwing in a towel and my political > >> home was only the ANCYL”. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks for telling the truth, it is revolutionary to tell the truth. At > >> least you know some. > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> Samuel Somcuba > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of setlakalane > >> molepo > >> Sent: 28 October 2011 02:48 PM > >> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [CU] History was made this week by the long walk to > economic > >> freedom march > >> > >> > >> > >> Julius 's constituency is not in summits and please do us a favour YCL, > >> accept that you are not a proactive organization, you cannot ever take > >> initiative and engage the masses on your own, you are best a wait and > >> support organization. This time you missed a opportunity to brag about > how > >> successful your joint much with the ANCYL was, because you > miscalculated the > >> level of support of President Julius Malema and their intelligence, you > >> thought the march was going to be an embarrassment. Stop this academic > >> meetings and events of yours and be visible to the masses not only be > >> vissible at ANC rallies or COSATU rallies. Myself at some stage I > wanted to > >> join the YCL , I phoned the number i got from the website as your > contact > >> details and I was told that you had moved offices and the number > belongs to > >> some affiliate of COSATU, I tried desperately to look for you, as at > that > >> stage I had the desire to be politically schooled and I know you are > good at > >> that but I ended up throwing in a towel and my political home was only > the > >> ANCYL. > >> > >> > >> > >> Therefore indeed be visible create branches and stop being a group of > >> scholars. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yours, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Setlakalane > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Siyabonga Gasa <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Julius is a hypocrite he has just demonstrated how to abuse activism > >> and misuse power and status of being a leader of an Anc structure..he > >> has regretably missed an opportunity of engaging YCL & civil society > >> in a Youth summit..instead he marched for fear of being exposed as a > >> hollow motormouth..the man leaves in a lap of luxury..his objectives > >> of showing off is over.. now he'll romp to a very exclusive Zar bar to > >> triumphantly reflect on the mob he had mobilised. The destitute are > >> back to their substandard dwellings. > >> > >> What are success indicators for the march? Surely not the ppl who > >> boosted his bloated ego! Let's wait and see. > >> > >> > >> What > >> > >> On 10/28/11, kodlana <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Cde Setlakalane, > >> > > >> > Ur support for the YL President is good thing and ur not alone. Some > in > >> > this > >> > forum do support him as well, but they are afraid of voicing that, > >> > because > >> > of the fear of ridiculed. > >> > >> > Sent from my BlackBerryŽ wireless device > >> > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: setlakalane molepo <[email protected]> > >> > Sender: [email protected] > >> > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:52:00 > >> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Reply-To: [email protected] > >> > >> > Subject: Re: [CU] History was made this week by the long walk to > >> > economic > >> > freedom march > >> > > >> > Dear Comrades > >> > > >> > I must say I am not surprised at all with the responses I am getting. > >> > You > >> > must be thinking this is another uninformed, member of a member (a > term > >> > I borrowed from some of comments in this group) who is not au fait > with > >> > real ideological policies, principles of the mass democratic movement > >> > and I > >> > concede and confirm your preconceived judgments and so do many of his > >> > followers. My appreciation of Julius Malema is that he goes where > others > >> > dare to go, he is fearless and that's why we love him. I don't care > >> > about > >> > his wealth and how he got, he is not the only tenderpreneur or > >> > politician > >> > cum millionaire/billionaire, the difference is that his wealth is > >> > exposed > >> > because he must be silenced for telling the truth about the plight of > >> > the > >> > poor Africans/ for his fall out with JZ. At least even when he is > living > >> > a millionaire life he does not forget to go and listen to his > >> > constituency. > >> > > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > Setlakalane > >> > > >> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:25 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> >> ** Thanks for the update cadre. > >> > >> >> > >> >> So I gather as the masses start their long journey home in buses and > >> >> taxis > >> >> (most with no air-condition) back to their normal lives in squatter > >> >> camps, > >> >> townships and villages, while the leadership is cruising in their > >> >> chauffeur-driven Range Rovers to their multi-million rands mansions. > >> >> Perhaps > >> >> they will via Tzar and pop bottles of Blanc, Dom Perignon and god > knows > >> >> what > >> >> other Champaign to celebrate a successful march. > >> >> > >> >> The marchers from far flung areas such 'No body', 'My darling' and > >> >> 'Nquza' > >> >> would, at least, celebrate the fact that had a nice long trip free of > >> >> charge > >> >> and t-shirts paid for by unknown business people. But as soon as > >> >> tomorrow > >> >> they will be facing the reality they faced on Wednesday. Indeed it is > >> >> true > >> >> that Julius will be mentioned in the history books but whether in the > >> >> same > >> >> breath with icons such OR Tambo, Lembede et al is another question. > >> >> History > >> >> will be the judge. > >> >> > >> >> Comradely, > >> >> Mandla > >> >> > >> >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > >> > >> >> ------------------------------ > >> >> *From: * setlakalane molepo <[email protected]> > >> >> *Sender: * [email protected] > >> >> *Date: *Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:01:47 +0200 > >> >> *To: *<[email protected]> > >> >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > >> >> *Subject: *[CU] History was made this week by the long walk to > economic > >> > >> >> freedom march > >> >> > >> >> Comrades I am proud to say I was part of history, I took part in the > >> >> beginning of the struggle for economic freedom as my president said > it > >> >> it > >> >> does not end today at the Union buildings, it is the beginning, we > must > >> >> make > >> >> everyone buy in the the struggle for economic freedom, at parties or > >> >> funerals or weddings everywhere we must end our meetings with the > call > >> >> for > >> >> the economic freedom. 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