Hi again Derick,
I tried intalling YDL 4.0.1 and it worked!!! I have the whole KDE
desktop working and internet, too! Thanks for the help! I have wanted
to try linux for a long time.
Still the Disk Utility picture in OS X looks strange:
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Untitled 512 MB
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Free Space 18.05 GB
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OS X 50.56 GB
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Untitled 18.05 GB
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Free Space 50.68 GB
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OS 9.2.2 5.29 GB
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The list to the left of this also reads:
disk0s10
OS X
disk0s12
OS 9.2.2
Is this normal? This looks very strange to me. The GB amounts also add
up to way more than a 80 gig drive can hold. Thanks for any input. And
thanks again for the help.
Dave
David Froseth wrote:
Derick,
I have finally got what I think is a good bootable backup of my OS
X & 9 HD, using DiskWarrior and Carbon Copy Cloner. I think some of
my last YDL partitioning problems came from trying to copy to and swap
a new hard drive into my laptop without ever doing any disk
maintenance. A little knowledge can give you enough confidence to get
into big trouble. Then you really learn something! I think my
original HD was so gummed up with borken permissions and directories
that the copy hard drive I installed in my computer was a mess. I
think YDL and all other Linux distros could start by telling people
that if they plan on a partitioned multi-os system then clean up the
os's on the existing partitions. Do a disk first aid operation.
I don't think you should attemt to install YDL untill you have
mastered how to make a bootable clone of your OS X hard drive. I
could be way off on this, maybe it doesn't matter. But, I have spent
a week getting my new hard drive and all of my OS X programs working
again. I eventually deleted my fink /sw file and I am now reloading
all of those programs. Having to relearn all of the fink stuff again
is good. I also have gained a much deeper and valuable understanting
of the underpinings of unix based os's by struggling with a fried hard
drive (actually 3 fried hard drives). Luckily I did not lose any
important data.
I read the YDL 2.2 guide and that made the process much more
understandable. Thanks for the advice. In trying my next attempt to
install YDL, I got to this point and had some questions:
Hard Drives
/dev/hda
/dev/hda9 Apple Bootstrap 1
2 4
/dev/hda10 swap 512
4 1045
/dev/hda12 / ext3
18487 1045 38605
/dev/hda11 hfs
51769 38605 143786
/dev/hda13 hfs
5422 144046 155061
My questions are:
Why does the OS X and OS 9 partitions have the number hda11 and
hda13? Why does the numbering start so high and why is 12 skipped by
OSX and OS 9?
Where are hda1 - hda8?
Is hda12 going to be physically placed between hda11 and hda13? The
picture at the top of the window looked right. The order of the Start
and End points seems to be right, except for the gap between hda11 and
hda13's start/end points - 143786,144046. What does that mean?
Should hda11 and hda13 say hfs+?
I hope all of these little detail questions are relevent. Asking
questions about little details can help with the big picture. Any
advice you feel like giving would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again,
Dave
Derick Centeno wrote:
Hi Dave:
Here is a link to a TSS page which you really do want to read before
going any farther:
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/installation/
guide2.2.shtml#install
Red Hat is useful sometimes but remember they couldn't care less
about OS 9 or other non-PC partitioning schemes so the likely hood
of you finding anything other than references to detailed
applications in Linux is really, really remote. In other words, you
are in a Apple PowerPC universe and those are the only references
which are going to be helpful. If you wish to learn about details
regarding creating mount points within Linux and so on that is fine
to use Red Hat but they will not tell you what a MacOS partition
looks like within Linux using any application like pdisk or parted
(partition editor). The page I found, created by TSS the makers of
YDL, will! That's what you need.
Attention: Although the page refers to YDL 2.2, the partitioning and
mount point instructions are consistent across all versions of YDL
for Macs. This will continue until Apple finally actually switches
to Intell and then everyone must consider to either stay with
PowerPC systems and move up to Genesi/Pegasos hardware or follow
Apple or just throw up one's hands and use PCs or Sun's or whatever
else is out there. May a HAL 2000 anyone? :-)
Oh yes... I forgot. After Apple switches to Intel, then maybe Red
Hat may show an interest in serving the users of the New Intel based
Macs who also want to use Linux.
That however will be a different list, probably not this one.
Best wishes...
On Aug 8, 2005, at 5:03 PM, David Froseth wrote:
Thanks Derick for the quick response. It helped. From now on I
will only do this critical setup manually. More questions. I
understand that the untitled spaces are linux partitions that OS X
does not recognize. Initially when I tried to manually input the
partition info I was asked for a mount point. The manual
partitioning would not continue unless I fill this in. Page 5 of
the "A Companion to Install YDL" does not tell you what to do. I
want to make sure I use up all of the free space and also put the
linux partitions in front of the OS X and OS 9 partitions. Any
explaination on how to control the spot on the hard drive where
the partitions reside? Thanks for any advice. I found some disk
druid tutorials on the net which are geared to Red Hat, I will
study them to see if I can figure this out more. Thanks again.
Dave
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