On 5/6/19 12:45 PM, Josef Holzmayr wrote:
I'd actually word it a little bit differently:

If there is only *ONE* attendee who did not properly do the homework, it
will have a massive impact an the rest of the group. And that somebody
will show up unpreparedly is absolutely certain in my opinion.


With sufficient trainers, one can continue for most and provide some assistance to the one falling behind.

As someone who actually got started through the YPDD beginner track (and
also often recommends it to new beginners), my opinion is clearly that
we either should have it, be it only for a handful of attendees, or
offer a *real* replacement, with face to face training. My experience is
that this personal thing in the very beginning is an absolutely
essential part of many YP/OE careers.


I agree. That is how I started, next to a compressed Linux Foundation Yocto training that was offered just before the event then.

So it might be wise to ask LF or get something organised. It would mostly require a room and a sponsor for some small devkit.


Greetz

On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 04:46:12PM -0700, Behan Webster wrote:
Just for the record, speaking as a professional trainer, and someone who makes 
material available before classes in the hopes that people will do “pre-class 
homework”, almost nobody even glances through any material sent before class. 
And many people claim to have never received it (for various reasons, but often 
because it ends up ignored or in spam).

Essentially I wouldn’t count on anyone actually looking at anything before 
arriving, because statistically nobody does.

Behan

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On May 5, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Volosincu, Andreea S 
<andreea.volosi...@windriver.com> wrote:

That’s correct. We’ll provide previous beginner material as pre-class homework.
Andreea From: Behan Webster [mailto:beh...@converseincode.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:30 AM
To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosi...@windriver.com>
Cc: akuster <akus...@mvista.com>; yocto-advoc...@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list 
discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org>
Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer 
Days
So does this mean there won’t be a beginner class at all? Behan

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On May 3, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Volosincu, Andreea S 
<andreea.volosi...@windriver.com> wrote:

Hi Armin,
Thanks for letting us know. The security summit overlaps with a lot of things, including the first ELC day. Hopefully we can make it work by fine-tuning the agenda in such a way that you attend just the portion of the day that is interesting to you, or you are presenting. Let’s talk more during the advocacy call. Thanks!
Andreea
From: akuster [mailto:akus...@mvista.com]
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 11:07 AM
To: Volosincu, Andreea S <andreea.volosi...@windriver.com>; 
yocto-advoc...@yoctoproject.org; Yocto list discussion <yocto@yoctoproject.org>
Subject: Re: [Yocto-Advocacy] Yocto Project Upcoming Conferences and Developer 
Days
On 5/3/19 11:01 AM, Volosincu, Andreea S wrote:
Greetings,
Yocto Project is pleased to announce the plans for the upcoming Embedded Linux Conferences in NA and Europe. Here is a snapshot of our schedule: ELC NA – Wednesday, August 21 - 23, 2019, Hilton San Diego Bayfront, San Diego, CA
                    Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor
ELC NA Dev Day – Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM
Set-up: 1 Meeting Room - Classroom Seating ( 60 people)
Level: Intermediate – Advanced. Participants will receive beginner material 
(videos and presentations) as pre-requisites
Includes: Morning Break, Buffet Lunch, Beer & Wine Reception with light 
appetizers
So beer is a prerequisite for Intermediate level?

This is a conflict with Linux Security summit unless someone can convince me to 
be part of the training?

- armin



ELCE – Monday, October 28 -30, 2019, Lyon Convention Centre, Lyon, France
               Yocto Project is a sponsor. We’ll see you on the show floor
ELCE Yocto Project Summit – Dates & Times:
Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 8:00AM - 6:00PM
                November 1, 2019 - 8:00 am - 6:00PM
Set-up:
Day 1: 1 Meeting Room - Theater Seating for 100 for Yocto Project talks
Day 2: 2 Meeting Rooms - Mixed Classroom/Theater seating for 60 & Classroom 
seating for 40 (for maintainers and users)
Includes:
Morning Break for 2 days
Buffet Lunch for 2 days
Beer & Wine Reception with light appetizers for 1 day
The goal for the second day of the summit is to build and bring the community 
together. We are interested to hear your opinions and ideas on how that day and 
those rooms should be used for. Please send your ideas to Andreea Volosincu and 
Philip Balister.
We will call out an Advocacy meeting in a couple of weeks to go over plans and vote on the ideas for the second day of the summit. Thanks!
Andreea
Yocto Project Advocacy Lead



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