I was a little concerned about this. Is Yoper a community project with no real ownership, or are we doing this with the threat of Andreas pulling the Yoper name if we do not follow his wishes? I need to know now before devoting more time to this. I have already purchased a laptop (although it was a cheap one) just for this project. I have not spent anywhere near the time others have, however I plan on making significant contributions to this distro. This should be a group conscience decision to put in Xgl or any other technology. I wanted LVM, but was also told that Yoper is not ready. I am fine with that. Now that I have seen there is a lot of work to get the system stable, I understand why it should wait. I am perfectly fine at this stage walking away with no hard feelings. But if I spend the next year on Yoper only to have it pulled by Andreas because he does not like how we do things, then I will be greatly dissapointed. Maybe a fork is the right thing to do at this point.
Andreas, As far as calling it Flopper? That is bad form. You left this project. It is not yours any more. I understand a fondness, but if you want that kind of control, you should not have licensed it under the GPL. All you have is the name. The code can be taken and forked by anyone. I can only speak for myself, I was impressed with your efforts in the past and wanted to contribute. But, if you are going to be a dictator, then I will go elsewhere. I am interested in hearing from chaks and TobiG on this issue. David Huffman (bigredradio) On Thursday 25 May 2006 02:43, Andreas Girardet wrote: > Folks > > you know me. I am no enemy of clear words and of action. > > Honestly, if the attitude of Yoper developers for Eye Candy is that back > wards, we might as well shut Yoper down. I will certainly not put my name > on the line for a distro that is: > > > 1.) Unstable > 2.) Takes ages to install > 3.) Has absolutely no up to date packaging and hardly any interesting > packages (no OO!!!) > 4.) Does not have the latest Eye Candy > 5.) Where developers have left the ideal of taking the best of other > distro's and integrate it > > Are you guys still doing Yoper or would it not be better starting your own > distro? Maybe call if Flopper? > > Saying that Xgl "slows" things down is pretty laughable given the fact that > XGL actually uses the Video RAM for its Rendering (and the GPU) and that in > itself is more than what your Yoper is doing at the moment. > > I feel Yoper is diverting from its path and given the fact that you > published an alpha that does not even install on standard systems (how > apalling!), I think that you should review any future release. I will > certainly have a word on anything that comes out as after all this is my > baby and I will not let my baby run like that. > > Get my point? > > Andreas > > On 5/25/06, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 25 May 2006 01:00, Tobias Gerschner wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > is there any knowledge about slowing down systems with XGL ? Or are > > > these just assumptions ? I don't have reviewed this particular matter. > > > > > > FYI: I am somewhat locked away in my current location because the WLAN > > > here got down and I have to use public machines, where I obviously > > > can't do much. > > > > > > So, I propose we get it work before worrying. Xorg 7.1 is on the run, > > > and that is enough reason for me to upgrade X . Given the fact that > > > Yoper Development is somewhat slower than anyone of us likes we have > > > to upgrade the system from time to time anyway (IMHO). > > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > For my part, it was an assumption :) Even KDE slows down a PC compared > > to Flux or XFCE - so the added 3d goodness of Xgl is likely to require > > larger amounts of memory simply to perform the eye candy side of things. > > However, I am open to correction :) > > > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > > yoper-dev mailing list > > yoper-dev@lists.yoper.com > > https://morpheus.pingos.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/yoper-dev _______________________________________________ yoper-dev mailing list yoper-dev@lists.yoper.com https://morpheus.pingos.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/yoper-dev
