Thanks for your reply, Nadyne. Sorry about the crack about 18 year-olds. What I meant about wondering "if any one of them has any experience using MS Office for business purposes," is...
I wonder if anyone on the team has actually used MS Word to write a complex document, for example, a 500-page proposal. We do fine with MS Word Mac 2008, but we struggle against MS Word Windows 2010. We spend hours and hours trying to figure out how to do anything that we already knew. Almost nothing ins Win Word 2010 is where it used to be. There are very few menus available. As to Outlook 2011... Glad to hear that we'll be able to turn off the threaded email. The Youtube video says that Outlook 2010 is "Time Machine friendly." Does that mean MS Outlook 2011 has done away with the Entourage monolithic database? Thanks/Roger/ Nadyne Richmond <[email protected]> wrote on 7/29/10 3:54 PM: > On 7/28/10 10:07 PM, "Roger S. Cohen" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Outlook will have some sort of threaded email implementation. I hope that >> I >> will be able to turn threaded email OFF. I hate that threaded email on >> iPhone 4, and am glad that I can turn it off. > > Yes, you can turn off conversations. For example, I'm using conversations > in my main inbox and a couple of folders that get a lot of incoming mail, > but I use the standard date-received view for several other folders. > >> Office 2011 introduces the stupid fargin' stinkin' Ribbon, which we who >> are >> also using Win Word simply hate. I hope MS offers a preference for "make >> it >> look like MS Word 2008." > > Before you jump to a conclusion based on the name "Ribbon", I invite you > to give it a try once Office 2011 hits store shelves later this year. We > liked the concept of the Ribbon for Office for Windows, but the details of > its implementation weren't necessarily appropriate for our Mac users. For > example, we have kept our menu structure (in keeping with being a good Mac > citizen), so you won't have to worry about not being able to find "print" > because it's still exactly where you expect it to be. > >> The MS Office 2011 program managers like like they're about 18 years old. >> They speak of what Mac users want and expect. But I wonder if any one of >> them has any experience using MS Office for business purposes. > > I promise that they're all past the US legal drinking age. ;) Since the > video went live yesterday, we've been ribbing them good-naturedly about > the comments on YouTube, and they seem to be waffling between being > embarrassed by the comments and being pretty pleased that people think > that they're 18! > > That said, it's the job of people like me on the team (and I promise that > I left 18 behind quite some time ago) to go out and gain a deep > understanding of what Mac users want and expect, and to bring that back to > the team to help build a better app that meets our users needs. Even if > they were 18 (or 16, or 12, as some comments have suggested), they're not > working on our apps in a vacuum, and they're doing it in conjunction with > people across multiple disciplines who have a range of experience and > expertise. We've joked that we should re-cut the video with some of our > (ahem) more advanced members of the team. We've got plenty of people who > have been here for at least 15 years, and they're helping our younger team > members understand history and so much more. > > Regards, > Nadyne. > > sent using Outlook:Mac 2011 > > -- > YouTalk mailing list > List information: http://www.entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html > List moderator: [email protected], [email protected] > To unsubscribe: mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Roger S. Cohen President Cohen International 3 Main Street, Suite 602 Nyack, NY 10960 USA [email protected] http://www.rogercohen.com Land: +1 (845) 358-8936 Cell: +1 (845) 304-3998 -- YouTalk mailing list List information: http://www.entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html List moderator: [email protected], [email protected] To unsubscribe: mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe
